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re: Hanity and the BOOM

Posted on 1/21/18 at 1:25 am to
Posted by Rex
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Posted on 1/21/18 at 1:25 am to
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Only once did les miles go 9-4.

???

He also went 8-5 twice and was fired after 2-2. Miles's program was in decline.

I believe that LSU has performed better under Orgeron than it would have under Miles.




Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
55605 posts
Posted on 1/21/18 at 1:30 am to
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You really think that Donald Trump would be reluctant to withhold a document that proves his stupid tweets about the FBI and Obama spying on him? I think not.


FISC Doc showing abuse and the COURT coming down on them for it is here:

LINK

READ SLOWLY...IT's OUT..FISC DOC in the LINK.


Memo to be out soon.

Posted by Rex
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Posted on 1/21/18 at 1:38 am to
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FISC Doc showing abuse and the COURT coming down on them for it is here:


I'm talking about the FISA WARRANT that authorized the FBI to monitor people in the Trump campaign... not some internal FISA memo... which even in itself says something radically different than people like you and Joe Hack DiGenova want it to say.
This post was edited on 1/21/18 at 1:45 am
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
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Posted on 1/21/18 at 1:45 am to
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I'm talking about the FISA WARRANT that authorized the FBI to people in the Trump campaign... not some internal FISA memo..


Good Lord.... That is a COURT DOC... not a MEMO and it details it. Only the names of certain players are redacted and that is where the memo WILL come in.

Posted by Rex
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Posted on 1/21/18 at 1:50 am to
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Good Lord.... That is a COURT DOC... not a MEMO and it details it. Only the names of certain players are redacted and that is where the memo WILL come in.

That is NOT the FISA WARRANT that authorized the FBI to surveil members of the Trump campaign.

Keep wishing.

I asked you why Trump has not declassified and released the WARRANT if as you and your fellow trumplodytes assert was based on a phony dossier, which he certainly has the power to do... why don't you answer?

Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
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Posted on 1/21/18 at 1:52 am to
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That is NOT the FISA WARRANT that authorized the FBI to surveil members of the Trump campaign.


That is the actual COURT talking about the DATES and the details of how it happened.

FACT.

Posted by Rex
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Member since Sep 2004
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Posted on 1/21/18 at 1:57 am to
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That is the actual COURT talking about the DATES and the details of how it happened.

FACT.



Why won't you answer my question? Give me your best guess.
Posted by AUstar
Member since Dec 2012
19601 posts
Posted on 1/21/18 at 3:27 am to
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SH has been saying that some people should go to jail based on his sources.


Most of us think people SHOULD go to jail. The question is will they? I won't hold my breath.
Posted by Terry the Tiger
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Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 1/21/18 at 3:52 am to
The court document states that there were “serious violations of the Fourth Amendment”. That is neve good.
Posted by RazorBroncs
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Posted on 1/21/18 at 6:09 am to
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Like I said, Trump has the absolute power to declassify and release to the public ANY AND ALL OF THAT.



I know this is said often on the PT board but it bears repeating in this instance - you sir, are an idiot.

A. No he can't, that's a myth

B. Even if he could, it would be a dumb move on his part for many, MANY reasons that you're clearly too braindead or blinded to consider.

The following is regarding the Nunez memo but directly applies to what you're suggesting:

"It is essential the process is followed that allows the larger story to come out without providing the use of political cover by those who are intent on hiding the corruption.

Once the House Intelligence Committee votes to declassify the four-page memo, the White House, National Security Adviser (H.R. McMaster) and National Security Council will have five days to review the content. The White House will likely have a brief review by the NSC and the Office of Legal Counsel of the content, and then issue approval for the release.

There are poorly informed voices who claim President Trump can arbitrarily declassify the Nunes memo. That is false. The White House (the executive branch) does not own the document. The Nunes memo is owned by the Legislative Branch, and specifically by the House Intelligence Committee. The Executive Branch can request the memo, but they cannot demand it without following a process. Therefore, without submission, the executive branch cannot declassify it. There is an inherent constitutional separation of power.

Secondly, while it might seem like a good idea for President Trump to declassify the Nunes memo, if given by the Intel Committee, it would not be prudent to do so. Within this classified document Donald Trump is the subject of adverse action outlined therein.


The President was the target of the unlawful action by the DOJ and FBI as reportedly outlined within the Nunes memo. Because the memo contains details of FBI and DOJ surveillance, Donald Trump (now POTUS) is both the victim and the head of law enforcement in charge of investigation the illegal action that created the victim.

In addition to being both the victim and charged with the legal authority over the FBI and DOJ, there are downstream ramifications due to Special Counsel Robert Mueller investigating President Trump for “Obstruction of Justice”.

White House lawyer Don McGahn would clearly instruct Trump (victim) to stay the hell away from this investigation. There is an inherent conflict. Any exceptional action taken by POTUS could be construed as interference, including violations of the separation of powers.

Therefore the best route as constructed by Nunes and Goodlatte would be for the House to vote to declassify, pass on to the Executive for review, then President Trump grants approval for the request of the House (legislative branch).

By law, all attempts by the legislative branch to declassify intelligence information must be given to the executive branch for review in advance of release. This is because the executive branch needs to see if any current intelligence operations might be compromised by information not known to the legislative branch.

The National Security Council and any impacted offices of the intelligence information (CIA, NSA, FBI, DOJ, U.S. DoS, DOD, etc.) review, provide opinion, and sign off prior to executive approval and release.

It is not just this declassification that goes through this process, ALL declassification goes through this process. In this example, presumably, the President has no adverse reason to block the declassification request and it is likely all approvals will happen quite quickly."



TLDR- he can't declassify anything he wants to, even though he is the president due to the fact that there's a multi-step process and the warrant wouldn't belong to the executive branch.

It would also make the entire thing politically charged when the investigation is to be as unbiased as possible and lead to a MSM narrative that's not worth creating; especially when IT'S ALL COMING OUT ANYWAY.

Now that I've lowered the boom on you, let me point out the instances you showed your arse in this thread to rub your nose in it a little more.

quote:

Trump has the absolute power to declassify that and release it RIGHT NOW if he so chooses.

Gee, why doesn't he?

Stop being a sucker for Fox News's fake scandals.



WRONG

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Like I said, Trump has the absolute power to declassify and release to the public ANY AND ALL OF THAT.

You really think that Donald Trump would be reluctant to withhold a document that proves his stupid tweets about the FBI and Obama spying on him? I think not.

Instead, he doesn't want you to see that FISA document... Gee, I wonder why not.


WRONG AGAIN

quote:

That is NOT the FISA WARRANT that authorized the FBI to surveil members of the Trump campaign.

Keep wishing.

I asked you why Trump has not declassified and released the WARRANT if as you and your fellow trumplodytes assert was based on a phony dossier, which he certainly has the power to do... why don't you answer?



WRONG THE THIRD TIME


This post was edited on 1/21/18 at 6:20 am
Posted by BOSCEAUX
Where the Down Boys go.
Member since Mar 2008
52356 posts
Posted on 1/21/18 at 6:28 am to
Rex is just wishcasting, he knows the progs fricked up and the chickens are coming home to roost.
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
49485 posts
Posted on 1/21/18 at 6:42 am to
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Stop being a sucker for Fox News's fake scandals.


I am impressed by the 60 or so GOP reps who have seen the memo and are declaring it to be a 'bombshell.' These are people not given to hyperbole.

The fact that only FNC will report it is a comment on the bias of the CNN/MSNBC/etc rather than a slam on FNC. If they were really being 'silly' or 'misguided' the CNN/MSNBC/etc cabal would be deriding them daily. The so-called 'comedy' shows ought to be all up in there too making fun of the 'memo-bust' scenario. I don't watch them but I have seen no report of their levity concerning the topic.

It is also reported that no DEM will even go and read the memo. The DEMs on the committee voted unanimously to withold its release.

So - using you logic of "why doesn't Trump release it?" - you should be required to explain away all these equally or more important questions'

- why are the DEMs in the congress so adamant that it not be released - would make for good fun for them it is a nothing-burger.

- why is the MSM silent on its existence - or why are they not demanding its release so they can make fun of it?

- why has no DEM in congress even bothered to go read the memo (seems like I heard that ONE DEM has actually gone to look at it) but why have they not availed themselves of another talking point if it is so ineffectual.

- what sources do YOU have that are so much better based in logic and law than people like Jim Jordan, along with dozens of other equally qualified and decent people.

- why is Andrew McCabe retiring so quickly??

BTW - I welcome you back to the PoliBoard - have missed your insights and ability to articulate them.

however, you are not too convincing in this line of objection to the memo. CruiserHog could have done as well.

Posted by DEG
Atlanta
Member since Jul 2009
10861 posts
Posted on 1/21/18 at 6:53 am to
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No he can't, that's a myth


Can you back this up? Those who make it their business to study these things say that POTUS can declassify whatever he wants whenever he wants. Support:

”There’s no question that the president has broad authority to declassify almost anything at any time without any process”

quote:

Even if he could, it would be a dumb move on his part


Which would be consistent with his behavior. The American people have no reason to believe DT would act with prudence or restraint when it come to proving that he’s “right”.



Posted by olddawg26
Member since Jan 2013
26451 posts
Posted on 1/21/18 at 6:57 am to
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If it is anywhere close a lot of people on this board is going to owe him an apology.


Okay then I’m going on record saying that my clock has started and something big is gonna go down. I can’t tell you what, I can just say tick tock goes the clock. You may make fun of me now, but one day, something big is gonna happen and that’s gonna be what I was talking about, and youll all owe me an apology
Posted by Geauxst Writer
Atlanta
Member since Dec 2015
4960 posts
Posted on 1/21/18 at 7:40 am to
When Insee Hannity, I turned the page. He lost me when he balled licked a cyber terrorist and enemy of the US - Julian Assange. He is Hannity and Trump first - America Last.
Posted by i am dan
NC
Member since Aug 2011
31555 posts
Posted on 1/21/18 at 7:57 am to
See?

Liberals don't care about any truth. They are already defending the democratic party and nothing has even been released.

Even if it was the most damning document in the history of American politics, they won't care. They question NOTHING if it might hurt their party. I bet most would be okay with an illegal FISA as long as it was the Democratic party doing the wrong. They're not even interested in getting to the truth in possibly the biggest corruption stories in our history.

They never questioned a single act under the Obama admin. He did so many shady and illegal acts. Not a one of them cared, and neither did their media.

Just look at their democratic senators. They are absolutely pathetic. Half are retarded anyway. Couldn't even pass a 6th grade EOY test.

Win at all costs.
This post was edited on 1/21/18 at 8:08 am
Posted by RCDfan1950
United States
Member since Feb 2007
39560 posts
Posted on 1/21/18 at 8:12 am to
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You missed a lot. Hannity has been on this for months. I'll be interested in seeing just how close the info in the "memo" is to what he has been talking about. If it is anywhere close a lot of people on this board is going to owe him an apology. tick tock


Correctamundo! Minus the apology. The Dems and their delusional cohorts won't even acknowledge the memo...must less apologize for supporting the illegal actions therein.

Trump nailed it this morn in His Tweet. Go to the 'nuclear option'...get the Wall/Immigration Reform, do a REAL Budget (so we'll know where the money is going), and get 'shovel ready' Infrastructure projects going.

Ignore the Dems. They have become the Party of illegal immigrants...and not the Citizenry. They will essentially destroy this Nation if allowed.
Posted by Crow Pie
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Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 1/21/18 at 8:37 am to
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Rex is just wishcasting, he knows the progs fricked up and the chickens are coming home to roost.
Trump is too smart to release it during the meltdown over the Democratic Shutdown. He will make sure it gets released when the timing is best. Best to get the government up and running and then drop the hammer and then reiterate during the State of the Union Speech.

Maximum Effect - the Art of War
Posted by catnip
Member since Sep 2003
16378 posts
Posted on 1/21/18 at 9:44 am to
Help me out here. Are the dems ok for its release?
Posted by scrooster
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Posted on 1/21/18 at 9:54 am to
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Hanity and the BOOM


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