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re: Hamas Threatens to Kill All the Remaining Hostages Unless Israel Bows to Its Demands
Posted on 12/12/23 at 5:19 am to Captain Rumbeard
Posted on 12/12/23 at 5:19 am to Captain Rumbeard
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Those hostages are already dead. Been dead awhile for most of them. Probably some left but they won't be alive long if there are, which I doubt.
The prisoners that have been released said they were treated well. The footage shows them being friendly to their captors, and in one case thanking one.
This was somewhat inconvenient, so the Israelis have since claimed the prisoners were drugged.
To what I’ve seen, and I haven’t followed this story closely, the hostages who’ve died so far in Gaza were killed by Israeli bombs.
It seems unlikely that Hamas would kill their hostages. They took them as bargaining chips and to humiliate Israel. Murders have happened in the past though, I’m thinking specifically of the PLO and the 70s and 80s.
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Posted on 12/12/23 at 5:24 am to Lima Whiskey
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Probably
Long term the Israeli plan is to slowly annex the remaining territories as their own population grows, leaving behind little clusters, or cantons, of Palestinian settlement. The Israelis will control the borders of these settlements and restrict movement in and out, and movement to other cantons. If they deem it necessary, some of these will be walled in. These will be prisons.
Sounds like a great plan
Posted on 12/12/23 at 5:27 am to OceanMan
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It’s baffling to me that anyone is sticking up for Hamas, as they are exhibiting this hostile behavior
There are certainly pro Hamas people out there, but it’s largely a reaction to Israel’s behavior.
They’ve killed 15,000 people, the vast majority of them civilians, wounded 50,000, and engaged in an indiscriminate bombing campaign in Gaza designed to punish the Palestinian and discourage further resistance. That’s why they’re leveling blocks and destroying basic infrastructure. And then there are the typical Israel attempts to humiliate the Palestinians, that’s why those men were paraded around in their underwear.
The Israelis are not a civilized people, what they’ve done is a moral horror.
This post was edited on 12/12/23 at 5:29 am
Posted on 12/12/23 at 5:50 am to Loserman
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Good for Hamas for killing Israelites and good for Israel killing Hamas
Rantings of a sociopath.
Posted on 12/12/23 at 5:53 am to Lima Whiskey
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There are certainly pro Hamas people out there,
Like you.
Posted on 12/12/23 at 5:57 am to Lima Whiskey
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They’ve killed 15,000 people, the vast majority of them civilians, wounded 50,000, and engaged in an indiscriminate bombing campaign in Gaza designed to punish the Palestinian and discourage further resistance. That’s why they’re leveling blocks and destroying basic infrastructure. And then there are the typical Israel attempts to humiliate the Palestinians, that’s why those men were paraded around in their underwear.
When Hamas is hiding behind their own “civilians” inside “blocks” and “basic infrastructure”, we can put the resulting deaths and injuries on Hamas, not the people defending themselves. If Israel wanted to wipe out Gaza and everyone there, they could have easily done so. Why are they holding back? Parading in underwear is off limits, but rapes and murder by Hamas isn’t too far for you?
What, in your mind, is the appropriate response to October 7?
Posted on 12/12/23 at 6:02 am to Lima Whiskey
quote:
There are certainly pro Hamas people out there, but it’s largely a reaction to Israel’s behavior.
They’ve killed 15,000 people, the vast majority of them civilians, wounded 50,000, and engaged in an indiscriminate bombing campaign in Gaza designed to punish the Palestinian and discourage further resistance. That’s why they’re leveling blocks and destroying basic infrastructure. And then there are the typical Israel attempts to humiliate the Palestinians, that’s why those men were paraded around in their underwear.
bullshite.
You know how I know?
Because those people were pro-Hamas before any of that stuff happened. Immediately following the October 7 attack I was seeing those same people saying, "This is what decolonization looks like" and calling for a cease fire.
So no. NONE of this is because of Israel's behavior.
Posted on 12/12/23 at 6:05 am to BBONDS25
I’m a Christian and I have real sympathy for the Christian’s in Israel and Palestine. The Israelis treatment of Christians is deplorable.
Posted on 12/12/23 at 6:07 am to PhillyTiger90
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Spoiler alert: they’re already dead
I would rather be executed than traded for multiple terrorist prisoners. But they don’t tell the prisoners what the deal is.
Posted on 12/12/23 at 6:07 am to Lima Whiskey
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The Israelis treatment of Christians is deplorable
I would leave, find a nation that isn't Jewish or Muslim.
Posted on 12/12/23 at 6:08 am to Lima Whiskey
quote:As reported by the same folks who took the hostages in the first place, raped and murdered girls, decapitated babies, etc?
the hostages who’ve died so far in Gaza were killed by Israeli bombs.
Posted on 12/12/23 at 6:08 am to Lima Whiskey
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I’m a Christian and I have real sympathy for the Christian’s in Israel and Palestine. The Israelis treatment of Christians is deplorable.
You call forcing men to walk around in their underwear deplorable. What are your thoughts on the hamas attack in October? Surely as a Christian, you have an opinion on that.
Posted on 12/12/23 at 6:10 am to Lima Whiskey
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the hostages who’ve died so far in Gaza were killed by Israeli bombs.
You don't believe that either.
Posted on 12/12/23 at 6:11 am to Jack Bauers HnK
This is Israel’s version of an all out attack, with some considerations made for PR purposes.
I think the Israelis are lying about a number of their claims. With that said, what someone else does doesn’t suddenly permit you to behave like an animal. In the case of the underwear parade, it’s ultimately just stupid. Because it will motivate these men to join the militias and fight. The Israelis maybe clever, but they’re routinely not smart. They create their own problems.
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Parading in underwear is off limits, but rapes and murder by Hamas isn’t too far for you?
I think the Israelis are lying about a number of their claims. With that said, what someone else does doesn’t suddenly permit you to behave like an animal. In the case of the underwear parade, it’s ultimately just stupid. Because it will motivate these men to join the militias and fight. The Israelis maybe clever, but they’re routinely not smart. They create their own problems.
Posted on 12/12/23 at 6:11 am to Lima Whiskey
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They’ve killed 15,000 people, the vast majority of them civilians,
I bet you believed the tales Ukraine told as well.
Posted on 12/12/23 at 6:12 am to Lima Whiskey
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They create their own problems.
She shouldn’t have worn that skirt. Amirite?
Posted on 12/12/23 at 6:13 am to Lima Whiskey
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think the Israelis are lying about a number of their claims.
So are the Palestinians.
But you believe them
Posted on 12/12/23 at 6:15 am to Lima Whiskey
quote:Do tell. Which claims? What is your source?
I think the Israelis are lying about a number of their claims.
Posted on 12/12/23 at 6:23 am to Lima Whiskey
You are either horribly naive or the ultimate hypocrite.
Posted on 12/12/23 at 6:27 am to djmed
Israel should have never agreed to the cease fire in the first place
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