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re: Hamas says pointless to engage in ceasefire talks. Hostages never to be released.

Posted on 5/6/25 at 12:51 pm to
Posted by Grassy1
Member since Oct 2009
7330 posts
Posted on 5/6/25 at 12:51 pm to
That’s pretty much what I thought you might say.

Zero understanding of the situation other than what you have heard on foxnews or read on this board.

You are the target market of the Israeli propaganda campaign. And obviously, the campaign is effective enough.

Posted by Smeg
Member since Aug 2018
12378 posts
Posted on 5/6/25 at 12:54 pm to
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That’s pretty much what I thought you might say.

Zero understanding of the situation

There is no justification for what the Palestinians do.
None.
I'm telling you this as someone who would only shrug if Israel was nuked tomorrow.
Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
Member since Mar 2019
10175 posts
Posted on 5/6/25 at 12:56 pm to
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maybe all the same reasons that our country has been against mass immigration ourself?


8 Million in four years is not equivalent. Remember, they're just here to do jobs Americans won't. Rather, the Arab states know the descendants of Egyptians and Jordanians that you think are freedom fighters in Gaza are a bunch of bloodthirsty assholes that would gladly destabilize whatever country they end up in.

quote:

"Hamas is not a freedom organization; they are the most brutal terrorist organization in the world. I spoke with the young Gazans there, and they no longer talked about freedom, but about the genocide of the Jewish people."


What did the Jews do to you? Point to the doll where we touched you, m'kay?
Posted by Grassy1
Member since Oct 2009
7330 posts
Posted on 5/6/25 at 1:07 pm to
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8 Million in four years is not equivalent. Remember, they're just here to do jobs Americans won't. Rather, the Arab states know the descendants of Egyptians and Jordanians that you think are freedom fighters in Gaza are a bunch of bloodthirsty assholes that would gladly destabilize whatever country they end up in.


There were 2.1 million Palestinians in Gaza. So assuming Israel has killed 500,000, that’s 1.6 million left. So to export them to any small nation near them would have a larger impact than the 10 million we experienced.

And if their children are bloodthirsty assholes, we’re certainly doing our share to enhance their desire.

Certainly, Israel should “defend themselves” but obviously they want much more, and “themselves” means USA sponsored Israel, right?
Posted by BarberitosDawg
Lee County Florida across causeway
Member since Oct 2013
12048 posts
Posted on 5/6/25 at 1:20 pm to
Except no such thing as a Palestinian exists except in your head…

The nomadic Gaza Arabs like fire ants moved in there after Jordan evicted them and slaughtered 40,000 of them in the eviction.

They all could have chosen to become Israeli Arabs and flourish but they chose eternal war they can never win.

frick all the scorpions of Gaza.
Posted by theliontamer
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2015
1385 posts
Posted on 5/6/25 at 1:21 pm to
I would actually like to hear about the redeeming qualities of Palestine. Do you think they are the poor freedom fighters to Israel's aggression?
Posted by Grassy1
Member since Oct 2009
7330 posts
Posted on 5/6/25 at 2:11 pm to
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I would actually like to hear about the redeeming qualities of Palestine. Do you think they are the poor freedom fighters to Israel's aggression?


Good question. To my knowledge, I’ve never met a Palestinian. But I have met lots of children. They’re all born pretty innocent, with no knowledge of politics, wealth or poverty. They can’t feed themselves, and they certainly can’t protect or defend themselves. And more than half of Gaza’s population were children.

Just like you and I, they form their opinions of life based upon their experiences and what they are told.

We all understand that Gaza was an impoverished place, either by the fault of Hamas and/or Israel, depending on who you listen to. These children didn’t vote for Hamas, anymore than my granddaughter voted for Biden.

And I’m glad that Biden didn’t get us into a war that she would be blamed, maimed or killed, while a third party financed someone who hated her race, and wanted to exterminate her kind.

I suspect that Palestinians and Israelies somewhat deserve the pain they inflict upon each other. If one bothers to look at history from each of their points of view, they both have an argument.

What I don’t agree with, is the idea that US taxpayers have to finance either side. Other countries have civil wars without us. Why not let these two figure it out without us?

I would argue that we are in it because much money and power is derived by the powerful people of the USA by our continued meddling and financing. (Aipac and MIC)
Posted by LARancher1991
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2015
1408 posts
Posted on 5/6/25 at 2:16 pm to
Well being that I'm not a radicalized jihadist I'm sure I would probably take refuge in another country. Like other countries are offering the Palestinians. Oh wait they aren't doing that. Wonder why? Is it because they realize this certain group of people breed extremism wherever they go and don't want them in their country either.
Posted by shoestring
Member since Nov 2012
336 posts
Posted on 5/6/25 at 2:28 pm to
Looks like you are the one exposed to much propaganda!
Posted by BTROleMisser
Murica'
Member since Nov 2017
2951 posts
Posted on 5/6/25 at 2:29 pm to
Well, then they signed their fate. Good.
Posted by BTROleMisser
Murica'
Member since Nov 2017
2951 posts
Posted on 5/6/25 at 2:36 pm to
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Gotcha.

Same story for the past 12 months.

Israel puts up demands for people to leave Gaza, and ten other things not in the article.


Muh Israel is the great Satan... and Hamas muslim terrorists in Palestine are sweet, innocent, and oppressed at the hands of those Jewish Nazis in Israel, who are apparently at fault for everything bad in the world. It's not genocide when Hamas, Hezbollah, Iran etc etc etc. vow to exterminate Israel and all Jews "from the river to the sea," and attempt to carry it out over the years with violent terrorist attacks on Israeli citizens.... Nope. It's only when Israel suffers the worst terrorist attack in its history on Oct. 7, where Hamas fighters launched a sneak attack, killing, raping, dismembering, beheading thousands of Israeli citizens... including babies and women... and decides to fight back to end the Islamist extremist aggression against them once and for all that it's "genocide."

This post was edited on 5/6/25 at 2:45 pm
Posted by Grassy1
Member since Oct 2009
7330 posts
Posted on 5/6/25 at 2:36 pm to
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Looks like you are the one exposed to much propaganda!


Based on your research, you can easily conclude that, with no further discussion, or you can challenge a particular point that I’ve argued.

I’m open to and used to either one. And any onlookers can make their own opinions.

Btw, have you listened to the Dave Smith/Douglas Murray discussion on Rogan? Or maybe the Dave Smith/Josh Hammer debate at Princeton? Those are supposedly two of the Israel experts. They can help you define some points to argue.
Posted by BTROleMisser
Murica'
Member since Nov 2017
2951 posts
Posted on 5/6/25 at 2:39 pm to
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Consider yourself officially and 100% Propagandized


Yeah, you haven't been propagandized at all... Shilling for and sticking up for Hamas terrorists. fricking nerd. You and your club of "Israel is the Great Satan" "Free Palestine" (overwhelmingly leftist) nerds can frick right off.
Posted by BTROleMisser
Murica'
Member since Nov 2017
2951 posts
Posted on 5/6/25 at 2:40 pm to
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Just admit you hate all Jews, Israeli or otherwise, and let’s move on


This.
Posted by BTROleMisser
Murica'
Member since Nov 2017
2951 posts
Posted on 5/6/25 at 2:43 pm to
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hat’s pretty much what I thought you might say.

Zero understanding of the situation other than what you have heard on foxnews or read on this board.


Yeah, bro. I've watched the Dave Smith videos too.
Posted by Grassy1
Member since Oct 2009
7330 posts
Posted on 5/6/25 at 2:58 pm to
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There is no justification for what the Palestinians do. None. I'm telling you this as someone who would only shrug if Israel was nuked tomorrow


So you’re okay with Israel being nuked tomorrow, but you agree that we should be financing their efforts in everything they do to the tune of billions annually in US taxpayer dollars, whether printed or borrowed?
Posted by 632627
LA
Member since Dec 2011
13809 posts
Posted on 5/6/25 at 3:07 pm to
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Dave Smith


Is a massive emotional pussy. His whole anti-Israel argument is based on the fact that Palestinian women and children have died. That’s it. And because non combatants have died, his only conclusion is that Israel is doing it on purpose. Collateral damage doesn’t exist to him.

Strange he has total disregard for the Israeli civilian deaths at the hands of jihadists at bus stops, marketplaces, etc. Not to mention October 7
Posted by Reagan80
Earth
Member since Feb 2023
668 posts
Posted on 5/6/25 at 3:10 pm to
They killed them all, there’s no one left alive.
Posted by hansenthered1
Dixie
Member since Nov 2023
590 posts
Posted on 5/6/25 at 3:20 pm to
It's say how pathetic the antisemites are. They think they can hid behind some economic argument. Clearly there are a lot of emboldened Nazi types who think now is the time to speak up.

Posted by BarberitosDawg
Lee County Florida across causeway
Member since Oct 2013
12048 posts
Posted on 5/6/25 at 3:28 pm to
Israël could eliminate every one of the Gaza savages in about 7 minutes including any hiding in the tunnels.

Despite the rocket, drone, and missile strikes they have held back from doing what I believe every other civilized nation on the planet would have done years ago now.

But they have not. So it’s not only insane to play the lefts mindless handbook but numbing in how they deflect and squirm from the obvious logic presented.

Yet again an olive branch has been extended that would allow the scorpions to survive here it is only to be swatted. Away by the loathsome villains.

quote:

The ultimatum stated that if Hamas does not agree to Israel’s proposed outline, including the release of 10 hostages in exchange for a 45-day ceasefire, the military operation in Gaza will be significantly expanded. What the plan includes A senior political source said after the Sunday cabinet meeting that “The plan includes... seizing and holding territory in Gaza, moving the Gazan population southward for their protection, preventing Hamas from distributing humanitarian aid, and launching powerful strikes against Hamas – all actions that will help bring about its defeat.”


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