re: Haley declines to say slavery was cause of Civil War

If not for slavery, there would have been no secession and war. Get serious, man.

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and you now all support Nikki Haley

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You are really conflating subjects here.

I think we agree on about 85% of most things and not wanting Nikki is one of them.

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That the civil war was about slavery?

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Because it wasn't

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They portray the Yankees as a benevolent force to help the black man

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That is called propaganda. It sets a narrative for something that is almost true into being repeated as fact.

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You all got too triggered to see the forest from the trees

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Well, when you keep repeating incorrect statements and constantly being shown how wrong you are, it may seem like we are triggered.

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now all support Nikki Haley

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Uh, no.

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But what was the stated reason for secession?

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I already told you a point of secession was for the right to own slaves.

However, secession =/= civil war

and for the record it was not a "civil war" as the South wanted no part of controlling the North, they wanted independence from the Union.

Look, I know a lot on here would partially agree with her answer.

But in the year of our Lord 2023, in New Hampshire, in a Presidential Primary, you cannot say this or frame it like this.

This answer is a slamdunk "A republican President freed slaves from bondage and Democrats wanted to continue enslaving them" (even if you do not agree with this framing).

Nikki gets deer in headlights every time she is confronted with a hard, unscripted question.

This is one is going mega viral. National news and local news in NH and Iowa are already running with it.

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If not for slavery, there would have been no secession and war.

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Fun fact:

Massachusetts was the first colony to legalize slavery.

There is your root cause and it comes from the Yankee.

Let me just quote what was in South Carolina’s Declaration of Secession

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[T]he State of South Carolina having resumed her separate and equal place among nations, deems it due to herself, to the remaining United States of America, and to the nations of the world, that she should declare the immediate causes which have led to this act….

[A]n increasing hostility on the part of the non-slaveholding States to the institution of slavery, has led to a disregard of their obligations, and the laws of the General Government have ceased to effect the objects of the Constitution.

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A geographical line has been drawn across the Union, and all the States north of that line have united in the election of a man to the high office of President of the United States, whose opinions and purposes are hostile to slavery. He is to be entrusted with the administration of the common Government, because he has declared that that “Government cannot endure permanently half slave, half free,” and that the public mind must rest in the belief that slavery is in the course of ultimate extinction. . . .

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The Federal government was NEVER meant to garnish more power than the states. Fast Forward to today and it's clear to see why.

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Thank you. This is why I get so passionate about Lincoln, secession, and the war.

We are where we are because the North won.

The federal government was GRANTED its powers from the States.

Do you not understand that leaving a union does not equal a war?

You just keep going at it like an a abusive husband to his wife. "If you leave me, I'll kill you"

There were a half a million slaves in northern states during the civil war. It was not about slavery.