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re: Gun Violence re: From meme thread - Spoiler, it’s not the guns fault

Posted on 8/12/24 at 3:11 pm to
Posted by Laugh More
Member since Jan 2022
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Posted on 8/12/24 at 3:11 pm to
You could also apply the same logic to the legal gun owners that have WAY more guns than they let on/admit to…
Posted by CR4090
Member since Apr 2023
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Posted on 8/12/24 at 3:19 pm to
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Keep marginalizing black people.


That's what the democrats do and it guarantees them 90% in every race.

The democrats give you understanding and acceptance of the 'systematic' issues. And look at where that's got black people.

So maybe it's not about conservatives, but about black people(you included) who need to make the changes. Maybe stop dismissing the conservative voice when they do try to speak. Maybe stop voting for the same people and the same system, that help cause the chaos.

No one is stopping black people from joining the conservative movement except for black people. The black people who want to join have already done it.
Posted by riverdiver
Summerville SC
Member since May 2022
2629 posts
Posted on 8/12/24 at 3:57 pm to
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but you keep treating them as sub-human, this is going to continue.


So you think white people treat black people like they’re subhuman.

But a sizable percentage of them act subhuman.

Where is black leadership? Where is BLM? Jesse Jackson? Al Sharpton? Ben Crump? The whole assortment of “community organizers” representing the black community?

They’re grifters. None of them give a damn about the black community unless it puts money in their pockets.

MLK would be disgusted if he was alive today.
Posted by Tantal
Member since Sep 2012
18949 posts
Posted on 8/12/24 at 4:13 pm to
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but you keep treating them as sub-human, this is going to continue.

So, they're going to continue to kill each other until we give them some money? Bold strategy.
Posted by UncleFestersLegs
Member since Nov 2010
16280 posts
Posted on 8/12/24 at 4:15 pm to
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65%+ of blacks people grow up in a single family household.
the Great Society destroyed the black community on purpose.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 8/12/24 at 4:19 pm to
Discussing statistics is demoralizing?

Can we discuss personal responsibility or nah?
Posted by UncleFestersLegs
Member since Nov 2010
16280 posts
Posted on 8/12/24 at 4:21 pm to
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Unless there is an understanding and acceptance that there are systemic issues at hand which leads to generational poverty among blacks (me included), we will always wonder why the hell this keeps happening.
the single family statistic above is the main systemic issue that's led to generational poverty in the black community. Now millions of illegals are allowed to flood the border which will only further marginalize that community. There's nothing anyone here can do to stop you from voting for more of the same.
Posted by Laugh More
Member since Jan 2022
3309 posts
Posted on 8/12/24 at 4:28 pm to
Agreed. That’s why it gets shut down and called racist by the left.

They do t want people actually seeing the problem and fixing it. If that happened, the democrat plantation wouldn’t seem like such a nice place to be any longer.

The correlation between broken homes/no fathers and crime/poverty is undeniable.

But again…racist for pointing that out.
Posted by GABlueDawg
Member since Aug 2024
33 posts
Posted on 8/12/24 at 4:29 pm to
The comments are always about how blacks are thugs and keep shooting each other and at the same time not willing to look why this is happening (both sides of the aisle). And please don’t get me started on grifters, the biggest grifter that I have voted for is the lord and savior DJT. Please don’t tell me Jared Kushner and Ivanka Trump had any credibility or expertise to participate in policy discussions on behalf of the American public.
This post was edited on 8/12/24 at 4:31 pm
Posted by Laugh More
Member since Jan 2022
3309 posts
Posted on 8/12/24 at 4:30 pm to
It’s also indicative of our instant gratification culture as a whole.

It’s MUCH easier to say and sway people by saying “systemic racism” than it is to find the issue, have tough conversations, and then act upon them.

It takes introspection and a willingness for accountability - two things a lot of people are not fond of because it can be difficult/uncomfortable . And that goes beyond race/skin color.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
77663 posts
Posted on 8/12/24 at 4:38 pm to
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there is an understanding and acceptance that there are systemic issues at hand
How is it then that there are successful black people in every field? How is it 25% of black households make more than 100k per year. I know that's lower than others, but why doesn't the "system" keep everyone down? How do so many make it out of poverty? The road map is out there and it's isn't a cypher.
This post was edited on 8/12/24 at 4:43 pm
Posted by UncleFestersLegs
Member since Nov 2010
16280 posts
Posted on 8/12/24 at 4:39 pm to
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And please don’t get me started on grifters, the biggest grifter that I have voted for is the lord and savior DJT
Then you should vote for his opponent and watch another 10 million illegals flood across the border. I'm sure that will help your community
Posted by Laugh More
Member since Jan 2022
3309 posts
Posted on 8/12/24 at 4:56 pm to
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The comments are always about how blacks are thugs and keep shooting each other and at the same time not willing to look why this is happening (both sides of the aisle). And please don’t get me started on grifters


Racism is big business. And not just for the big names like Sharpton, Crump, etc.

“Regular” people with channels on social media are able to make money by saying things and generating outrage. Perhaps it’s a grift at first, until they and their followers begin to sample their own wares.
Posted by RazorBroncs
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Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 8/12/24 at 5:07 pm to
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The comments are always about how blacks are thugs and keep shooting each other and at the same time not willing to look why this is happening (both sides of the aisle)


Go ahead and tell us, why IS this happening?

You think it's ignorance to suggest that black culture is broken, that it glorifies the wrong things that end up with prison and 75% single mother households and that isn't the problem - so tell us what is? What do you think "conservatives" are missing that they could fix?

Serious question. Not trying to be divisive or a smart arse, what do you think they could be doing differently?
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
154330 posts
Posted on 8/12/24 at 5:23 pm to
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How is it then that there are successful black people in every field? How is it 25% of black households make more than 100k per year. I know that's lower than others, but why doesn't the "system" keep everyone down? How do so many make it out of poverty? The road map is out there and it's isn't a cypher.


Because they aren’t encouraged to learn an actual trade. Look at the trades where you can make a decent living. How many black people are there.

Now look at the number of college educated blacks versus blacks that go to trade school.

There’s an easy gap to be bridged.

I don’t give a frick if a black guy fixes my AC or not. Just want it fixed.

Posted by narddogg81
Vancouver
Member since Jan 2012
21836 posts
Posted on 8/12/24 at 5:30 pm to
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Whats the African ownership rate of guns? I’ll bet its nowhere near as high as Black America, because theres no Second Amendment in Africa.
theres also barely what you could call a government over lots of Africa, massive parts of it are conrtrolled by warlords. im sure parts of africa gun 'ownership' i near universal, and those guns are ak47s
Posted by CR4090
Member since Apr 2023
8016 posts
Posted on 8/12/24 at 5:33 pm to
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The comments are always about how blacks are thugs and keep shooting each other and at the same time not willing to look why this is happening (both sides of the aisle)


Please tell us why this is happening? Modern blacks have the same(sometimes more) access than poor whites, poor hispanics and illegal immigrants. But look at the violence numbers. Blacks back when they actually had it bad, did a better job raising families and staying out of trouble.
Posted by highcotton2
Alabama
Member since Feb 2010
10326 posts
Posted on 8/12/24 at 5:36 pm to
Chart seems to be including suicide deaths which skew the numbers even more. Or at least that seems to be the case for France and Finland.

Posted by riverdiver
Summerville SC
Member since May 2022
2629 posts
Posted on 8/12/24 at 5:39 pm to
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The comments are always about how blacks are thugs and keep shooting each other and at the same time not willing to look why this is happening (both sides of the aisle). And please don’t get me started on grifters, the biggest grifter that I have voted for is the lord and savior DJT. Please don’t tell me Jared Kushner and Ivanka Trump had any credibility or expertise to participate in policy discussions on behalf of the American public.


Young black males make up < 6% of the population. Yet that demographic is responsible for an overwhelming percentage of shootings/deaths in the black community.

Explain that.

Explain black kids attending largely black schools, taught largely by black teachers, who are functionally illiterate. Yet the black led teachers union in places like Chicago ignore it, blaming it solely on test scores. Nothing to see here, right?

How are many black Americans supposed to succeed when a high percentage of them are kept dumb, dependent, and held back? It’s not Republicans doing it to them.

You don’t think Al, Jesse, BLM, etc grift off of the black community? What positive effects are they having? Where’s all of the money that was given to BLM? How many black lives have mattered to the leadership? It’s not Republicans blowing that money buying mansions.

You don’t think MLK would be disgusted today, after all he sacrificed for?

Quit gaslighting and try switching the subject to DJT. Why don’t you be honest about the issues?
Posted by Wolfwireless
Member since Aug 2024
4783 posts
Posted on 8/12/24 at 5:55 pm to
GABluedawg - I get where your coming from. I really do. I'm from Native American/Korean heritage myself.
And here's the problem. Getting either of those two sides of the fence to accept advice from another side.
And in both of those, you have to be a part of that society, in order to be accepted by that society.
I honestly ask you if black culture is the same way?
But if that society won't accept help from outside the society, it HAS TO COME FROM WITHIN.
In my particular case, the dirty side has to do better to stop being considered low class. But because of thick heads, they are the only ones who can show themselves to stop being the dirty side.
Does what I'm saying seem like truth?
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