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re: Gun Store Owner Refuses to Transfer Firearm to Antifa Supporter

Posted on 10/24/23 at 8:42 pm to
Posted by HeadSlash
TEAM LIVE BADASS - St. GEORGE
Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 10/24/23 at 8:42 pm to
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Dude should transfer or be sued into bankruptcy, for denying someone their constitutional right.



there are other gun stores, vote with your feet.
Posted by Roaad
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Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 10/24/23 at 8:43 pm to
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Weak men
Jesus, you just concede the point when you resort to this.

It makes your kind easy to ignore, without fear of missing out.

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You wouldn't be afforded the right to even have an opinion if the tables were turned.
So the answer is to deny them? That makes us more free?

Why not just imprison everyone you disagree with, politically? Because if the shoe were on the other foot, they may do some things you don't like.

How can we as a society afford to not have everyone imprisoned that we disagree with politically?

Think of the children!
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 10/24/23 at 8:44 pm to
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I do.

So you have an issue with the 2nd Amendment.
Posted by Breesus
House of the Rising Sun
Member since Jan 2010
69498 posts
Posted on 10/24/23 at 8:45 pm to
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I am not in that business, but I would imagine gun store owners are allowed to refuse sales to "suspicious people" even if they pass background checks. Being a member of a terrorist organization would certainly rise to the level of suspicious. At the same time, I do understand the argument that it's a slippery slope.


It’s not a slippery slope at all. You have the right to be free from government interference. You do not have the right to a service or transaction from a private business.
Posted by RealityWinsOut
Member since Oct 2023
1454 posts
Posted on 10/24/23 at 8:46 pm to
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SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED*

*unless I don’t like what you think


I got turned away because I hadn't updated my DL yet and I put my new address on the app. If hadn't said something about me just moving, it wouldn't have been an issue. So there are rules your side has put on gun purchases so Im thinking giving it to someone who is knowingly affiliated with a terrorist org falls under that.
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 10/24/23 at 8:47 pm to
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He's not denying him the right to own a gun, he's just refusing to sell it to him personally.
He isn't selling it, he is transferring the FFL. The gun was already sold, and Antifa guy owns it.

If Oregon has laws against denial of services on the basis of political affiliation, guy could be in real trouble.
Posted by CHGAR
Haile, LA
Member since Aug 2022
1247 posts
Posted on 10/24/23 at 8:48 pm to
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As great as it is to give them a dose of their own medicine, 2nd Amendment still reads "Shall not be infringed"


Ship it to another FFL.

"We reserve the right to refuse service to anyone."
Posted by SmackoverHawg
Member since Oct 2011
30941 posts
Posted on 10/24/23 at 8:50 pm to
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I got turned away because I hadn't updated my DL yet and I put my new address on the app. If hadn't said something about me just moving, it wouldn't have been an issue. So there are rules your side has put on gun purchases so Im thinking giving it to someone who is knowingly affiliated with a terrorist org falls under that.



Were you at Bass Pro Shops in Fayetteville Sunday evening? I saw this happen to a fellow.
Posted by CuyahogaTigerJr
Northeast ohio
Member since Aug 2018
2369 posts
Posted on 10/24/23 at 8:50 pm to
That’s your red flag right there, nice job, you don't need laws against ownership, just a conman sense seller worked here.
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
34894 posts
Posted on 10/24/23 at 8:52 pm to
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Sorry, I don’t judge who gets to avail themselves of constitutional rights by what politics they prefer.


2A refers to limits the government is allowed to impose not a private business.

Pretty sure I hear this in ad-nauseum in regard to free speech.
Posted by RealityWinsOut
Member since Oct 2023
1454 posts
Posted on 10/24/23 at 8:53 pm to
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Were you at Bass Pro Shops in Fayetteville Sunday evening? I saw this happen to a fellow.


That's funny. No, it happened like 10 yrs ago.
Posted by SmackoverHawg
Member since Oct 2011
30941 posts
Posted on 10/24/23 at 8:54 pm to
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. No, it happened like 10 yrs ago.


Good 'cause he kinda looked like a terrorist.
Posted by RealityWinsOut
Member since Oct 2023
1454 posts
Posted on 10/24/23 at 8:56 pm to
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Good 'cause he kinda looked like a terrorist.

Posted by SmackoverHawg
Member since Oct 2011
30941 posts
Posted on 10/24/23 at 8:57 pm to
Dude has a record and looks like a f#$king psycho.
Posted by TRUERockyTop
Appalachia
Member since Sep 2011
16807 posts
Posted on 10/24/23 at 8:58 pm to
I don't pretend to play ball with my enemies when I know what they'd do to my countrymen, my country, or the people I love given the opportunity. Virtue signaling for a group that hates everything you stand for is peak America in 2023.

Some of us were raised by wolves and the history books will tell how some of us cowardly stood at the entrance to the kingdom and watched as the virus made it's way in, robbed our children of their future and destroyed everything we built.

I mean this with everything I have. Fu ck you.
This post was edited on 10/24/23 at 9:02 pm
Posted by SmackoverHawg
Member since Oct 2011
30941 posts
Posted on 10/24/23 at 9:01 pm to
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I don't pretend to play ball with my enemies when I know what they'd do to my countrymen, my country, or the people I love given the opportunity. Virtue signaling for a group that hates everything you stand for is peak America in 2023.

Some of us were raised by wolves and the history books will tell how some of us cowardly stood at the entrance to the kingdom and watched as the virus made it's way in, robbed our children's future and destroyed everything we built.

I mean this with everything I have. Fu ck you.


Nice. I think we could be friends.
Posted by Tandemjay
Member since Jun 2022
4639 posts
Posted on 10/24/23 at 9:03 pm to
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Would you sell to an Al Qaeda member?

Antifa is a domestic terrorist organization.


The fbi disagrees with you.
Posted by Roaad
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Member since Aug 2006
81906 posts
Posted on 10/24/23 at 9:03 pm to
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I don't pretend to play ball with my enemies when I know what they'd do to my countrymen, my country, or the people I love given the opportunity. Virtue signaling for a group that hates everything you stand for is peak America in 2023.

Some of us were raised by wolves and the history books will tell how some of us cowardly stood at the entrance to the kingdom and watched as the virus made it's way in, robbed our children's future and destroyed everything we built.


How can you live in a world, where people are allowed to have opinions other than yours?

It must be absolutely maddening.

Should there be a list of approved opinions and ideas?

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I mean this with everything I have. Fu ck you.
I mean this with everything I have. Ha rd Pa ss Fi g
This post was edited on 10/24/23 at 9:04 pm
Posted by ValZacs
Zachary/Valpo
Member since Jan 2009
606 posts
Posted on 10/24/23 at 9:06 pm to
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He isn't selling it, he is transferring the FFL


Well, he's dang sure not transferring an FFL to him, you obviously meant the weapon.

Been out of the loop for awhile, but the FFL owner has the absolute right, or obiligation even, to not hand over the weapon if something doesn't 'feel' right - ATF gives a lot of leeway to the dealer in regards to transfer of ownership. And yep, indicating you are a member of a antifa would fall under that. Seen it happen many times.



Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
34894 posts
Posted on 10/24/23 at 9:07 pm to
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I don't pretend to play ball with my enemies when I know what they'd do to my countrymen, my country, or the people I love given the opportunity. Virtue signaling for a group that hates everything you stand for is peak America in 2023.

Some of us were raised by wolves and the history books will tell how some of us cowardly stood at the entrance to the kingdom and watched as the virus made it's way in, robbed our children of their future and destroyed everything we built.

I mean this with everything I have. Fu ck you.


Well said. This quote from Emerson comes to mind.

“A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds, adored by little statesmen and philosophers and divines. With consistency a great soul has simply nothing to do. He may as well concern himself with his shadow on the wall. Speak what you think now in hard words, and to-morrow speak what to-morrow thinks in hard words again, though it contradict every thing you said to-day. — 'Ah, so you shall be sure to be misunderstood.' — Is it so bad, then, to be misunderstood? Pythagoras was misunderstood, and Socrates, and Jesus, and Luther, and Copernicus, and Galileo, and Newton, and every pure and wise spirit that ever took flesh. To be great is to be misunderstood.”
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