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re: Grok AI is gonna put Fake News out of Business
Posted on 5/3/25 at 5:20 pm to John Barron
Posted on 5/3/25 at 5:20 pm to John Barron
China aint going anywhere....
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Posted on 5/3/25 at 5:27 pm to John Barron
Have you ever seen the first half of a football game when one team was dominating the other. Adjustments are made and the other team ended up winning? Times change, economy changes, and demographics change. The Chinese are in a unique situation because the government is in total control. Regardless of the situation they can manage or maneuver because of their complete and total control of their population. They are able to adjust even though it will cause much distress on their citizens. Kind of like “if some or most die” it is needed for the country. They also think long term.
Posted on 5/3/25 at 8:14 pm to Sofaking2
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Holy shite! That’s creepy as frick. Scary thought.
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Posted on 5/3/25 at 8:33 pm to John Barron
But what if Grok AI just made all that up, because it was programmed by someone supporting China? How would you know? You just bought it hook, line, and sinker, and even bragged that it saved you time to just believe it
Posted on 5/3/25 at 8:36 pm to RobbBobb
Yep. This is precisely why I’m not scared of AI taking over.
Anyone who has used AI for anything other than farting around or creating images of their head on Sonic the Hedgehog knows that it is very flawed.
Anyone who has used AI for anything other than farting around or creating images of their head on Sonic the Hedgehog knows that it is very flawed.
Posted on 5/3/25 at 8:37 pm to John Barron
So, FOX "news" is going out of business? Sounds like a W to me!
Posted on 5/3/25 at 8:43 pm to John Barron
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So I was about to click on and read this story on Zerohedge about the imminent collapse of China but one of the responses ask Grok to show a history summary of the author calling for the collapse of China and it noted they were calling for the collapse since 2001
So for about as long as the greenies have been telling us that all those glaciers will melt?
Posted on 5/3/25 at 8:59 pm to RobbBobb
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But what if Grok AI just made all that up, because it was programmed by someone supporting China?
Because you can ask Grok to show the references and sources and they will. That allows you to double check the answer
Posted on 5/3/25 at 9:01 pm to John Barron
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Because you can ask Grok to show the references and sources and they will. That allows you to double check the answer
Did you?
Posted on 5/3/25 at 9:08 pm to RobbBobb
Yes. It literally took me 45 seconds to do this. You can't fight this Bro. Grok AI is taking over and smashing all the fake news peddlers
Below are links to key sources that support the information provided about Gordon Chang’s predictions on China’s collapse and related context. These are drawn from the references used in my previous response, ensuring relevance and reliability:
Gordon Chang’s Book and Initial Prediction:
The Coming Collapse of China (2001) by Gordon G. Chang: Details his 2011 collapse prediction.
Amazon link for book overview and reviews: LINK [](LINK
Penguin Random House (publisher) page: LINK [](LINK
Revised Predictions and Criticism:
Foreign Policy article (2011), “The Coming Collapse of China: 2012 Edition” by Gordon G. Chang: Admits the 2011 prediction was wrong and revises to 2012.
Link: LINK [](LINK
Wikipedia on The Coming Collapse of China: Summarizes Chang’s predictions and their outcomes, including Foreign Policy’s “10 worst predictions” listings.
Link: LINK [](LINK
Global Times (2016), “Chang’s predictions of China’s collapse destroy his own credibility”: Critiques Chang’s repeated forecasts, focusing on 2016.
Link: LINK [](LINK
Economic Data and Context:
World Bank Data on China’s GDP: Tracks China’s GDP growth from $1.3 trillion in 2001 to $18.3 trillion in 2024.
Link: LINK
International Monetary Fund (IMF) World Economic Outlook (October 2024): Provides recent economic data on China.
Link: LINK
Sentiment on X:
For polarized views on Chang, you can search X directly for “Gordon Chang China collapse” to see posts reflecting both support and criticism. Example posts include:
@Michaelhuang138
(Jan 2025) on Chang’s 20-year misleading predictions: LINK
@thinking_panda
(Apr 2025) on Chang’s book and reputation: LINK
Note: X posts are not definitive evidence but show public sentiment. Use the X search feature for real-time views.
Additional Commentary:
The Diplomat (2015), “Why Do People Keep Predicting China’s Collapse?”: Discusses Chang’s predictions in the context of broader China doomer narratives.
Link: LINK [](LINK
Matthews Asia (2023), “The Coming Collapse of China?”: Contrasts Chang’s 2001 forecast with China’s economic growth (4.6x per capita income increase by 2022).
Link: LINK [](LINK
These links provide primary and secondary sources for Chang’s predictions, their reception, and China’s economic trajectory. If you need more specific sources or deeper dives into any aspect (e.g., Chang’s later predictions or China’s GDP data), let me know
Below are links to key sources that support the information provided about Gordon Chang’s predictions on China’s collapse and related context. These are drawn from the references used in my previous response, ensuring relevance and reliability:
Gordon Chang’s Book and Initial Prediction:
The Coming Collapse of China (2001) by Gordon G. Chang: Details his 2011 collapse prediction.
Amazon link for book overview and reviews: LINK [](LINK
Penguin Random House (publisher) page: LINK [](LINK
Revised Predictions and Criticism:
Foreign Policy article (2011), “The Coming Collapse of China: 2012 Edition” by Gordon G. Chang: Admits the 2011 prediction was wrong and revises to 2012.
Link: LINK [](LINK
Wikipedia on The Coming Collapse of China: Summarizes Chang’s predictions and their outcomes, including Foreign Policy’s “10 worst predictions” listings.
Link: LINK [](LINK
Global Times (2016), “Chang’s predictions of China’s collapse destroy his own credibility”: Critiques Chang’s repeated forecasts, focusing on 2016.
Link: LINK [](LINK
Economic Data and Context:
World Bank Data on China’s GDP: Tracks China’s GDP growth from $1.3 trillion in 2001 to $18.3 trillion in 2024.
Link: LINK
International Monetary Fund (IMF) World Economic Outlook (October 2024): Provides recent economic data on China.
Link: LINK
Sentiment on X:
For polarized views on Chang, you can search X directly for “Gordon Chang China collapse” to see posts reflecting both support and criticism. Example posts include:
@Michaelhuang138
(Jan 2025) on Chang’s 20-year misleading predictions: LINK
@thinking_panda
(Apr 2025) on Chang’s book and reputation: LINK
Note: X posts are not definitive evidence but show public sentiment. Use the X search feature for real-time views.
Additional Commentary:
The Diplomat (2015), “Why Do People Keep Predicting China’s Collapse?”: Discusses Chang’s predictions in the context of broader China doomer narratives.
Link: LINK [](LINK
Matthews Asia (2023), “The Coming Collapse of China?”: Contrasts Chang’s 2001 forecast with China’s economic growth (4.6x per capita income increase by 2022).
Link: LINK [](LINK
These links provide primary and secondary sources for Chang’s predictions, their reception, and China’s economic trajectory. If you need more specific sources or deeper dives into any aspect (e.g., Chang’s later predictions or China’s GDP data), let me know
Posted on 5/3/25 at 9:10 pm to John Barron
you needed ai to tell you zerohedge is fake news?
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