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re: Greg Abbott threatens Texas A&M president’s job over claim that university broke DEI ban

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Posted by AGGIES
Member since Jul 2021
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Posted on 1/15/25 at 10:50 am to
So help me understand this. Are they just trying to eliminate all state university clubs or groups that are specific to Black, Latin American, or Native American, etc. minorities?

Does a Texas A&M or University of Texas Latin American students speaker series get banned?
Posted by HagaDaga
Member since Oct 2020
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Posted on 1/15/25 at 10:52 am to
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It's beautiful that someone can make a post on X, tag the governor of a state and he responds immediately. That system has not existed anywhere in the history of the world.

True, but they still do need to be big to get some traction from some big names on Twitter to catch the right attention. Otherwise it's just another form for the "powerful" to have access. Just a whole new crop of them pushing their own agenda.

Good to see the President decided not to go for sure.

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Kurt Schlichter is a conservative commentator, a lawyer, and a retired army officer (Col.). He has written several books, including political commentary and fiction novels, and has a large Twitter following.


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Christopher F. Rufo ??
@realchrisrufo

EXCLUSIVE: Texas A&M is sponsoring a trip to a DEI conference that prohibits whites and Asians from attending. The university falsely claims that this use of taxpayer funds does not violate the state's DEI ban.

@TAMU is supporting racial segregation and breaking the law.

@KurtSchlichter

Hey @GregAbbott_TX @KenPaxtonTX - is my newly adopted state gonna put up with this crap? Because I came from California, and it leads to thousands of houses getting burned down.

@GregAbbott_TX

Hell, no.

It’s against Texas law and violates the US Constitution.

It will be fixed immediately or the president will soon be gone.
Posted by Tantal
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 1/15/25 at 10:57 am to
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It's beautiful that someone can make a post on X, tag the governor of a state and he responds immediately. That system has not existed anywhere in the history of the world.

Which is why the left didn't want it falling into Elon's hands.
Posted by DrrTiger
Gulf of America
Member since Nov 2023
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Posted on 1/15/25 at 10:59 am to
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So help me understand this. Are they just trying to eliminate all state university clubs or groups that are specific to Black, Latin American, or Native American, etc. minorities?


My understanding is that you can have something like a Black Engineers Conference, for example, but you can’t actually exclude people from other races who want to participate. This conference that A&M was involved with was doing that.
Posted by ThuperThumpin
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 1/15/25 at 11:00 am to
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Landry will not be doing the same to woke Tate


Tate really hasnt been that bad at all.
Posted by AGGIES
Member since Jul 2021
12401 posts
Posted on 1/15/25 at 11:06 am to
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My understanding is that you can have something like a Black Engineers Conference, for example, but you can’t actually exclude people from other races who want to participate. This conference that A&M was involved with was doing that.


Ok I’ll stick with Black Engineers example…. then all the white students can join the Black Engineers club.

No more Black Engineers Club.
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
South Florida
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Posted on 1/15/25 at 11:07 am to
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Texas is the least pussy state, not an opinion.


Has Wheels removed officials from their positions? My governor has.
Posted by DocYatesVA
Yukon, OK
Member since Oct 2022
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Posted on 1/15/25 at 11:11 am to
Why can't there just be an Engineers Club? Why does it need to be race specific? If they had a White Engineers Club and said no other races can attend or participate, how would that go over?

In order to end racist attitudes, we need to start seeing each other as equals, and stop allowing people to pigeonhole us by our skin color or gender.

The fact that a university, state supported, allows this type of behavior to occur is a sign that there needs to be intervention.
Posted by DrrTiger
Gulf of America
Member since Nov 2023
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Posted on 1/15/25 at 11:12 am to
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then all the white students can join the Black Engineers club.


In reality, most white students aren’t going to join such a club because they would feel awkward and maybe not welcomed.

But if the club says you literally can’t join because you’re white, then that becomes racial discrimination.
Posted by HagaDaga
Member since Oct 2020
7893 posts
Posted on 1/15/25 at 11:20 am to
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Ok I’ll stick with Black Engineers example…. then all the white students can join the Black Engineers club.

Topic hitting that personal spot
Posted by AGGIES
Member since Jul 2021
12401 posts
Posted on 1/15/25 at 11:22 am to
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Why can't there just be an Engineers Club?


Ok. To be clear. The result is eliminating clubs.
Posted by DrrTiger
Gulf of America
Member since Nov 2023
2544 posts
Posted on 1/15/25 at 11:24 am to
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Why can't there just be an Engineers Club? Why does it need to be race specific?


Because the dirty little secret is that lots of minorities actually like to segregate themselves. They just don’t want whitey to do it.
Posted by AGGIES
Member since Jul 2021
12401 posts
Posted on 1/15/25 at 11:27 am to
No, I’m not black, and it’s not personal. It just sounds like the Governors office is aiming to cut out a lot of clubs.

Clubs have nothing to do with DEI.

They are just clubs. They aren’t forcing any doctrine on others. It is the State that is prohibiting.
Posted by HagaDaga
Member since Oct 2020
7893 posts
Posted on 1/15/25 at 11:28 am to
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But if the club says you literally can’t join because you’re white, then that becomes racial discrimination

I have no problem with race/sex based clubs/groups, etc. Problem is that it only goes one way now adays. White males would struggle starting up a club of their own right now, especially on a university campus. The people that support a blacks only group would have an issue with a whites only group.

There is a podcast commercial I hear for a show called "Brown Ambition." Black women show, for black women things. No outcry for that by the podcast system hosting companies, but I'm sure they would have an issue with the exact same show but called "White Ambition."
Posted by Evolved Simian
Bushwood Country Club
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 1/15/25 at 11:29 am to
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It's beautiful that someone can make a post on X, tag the governor of a state and he responds immediately. That system has not existed anywhere in the history of the world.


It's the new politics. The people actually have a voice. In real time. And IT. IS. frickING. GLORIOUS.
Posted by HagaDaga
Member since Oct 2020
7893 posts
Posted on 1/15/25 at 11:29 am to
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No, I’m not black, and it’s not personal.

Ok so you fell for the indoctrination.
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Clubs have nothing to do with DEI.

They are just clubs. They aren’t forcing any doctrine on others. It is the State that is prohibiting.

I don't either, but lets be honest, a whites only one would not be allowed. That's why it falls under the DEI umbrella.
Posted by AGGIES
Member since Jul 2021
12401 posts
Posted on 1/15/25 at 11:34 am to
To clarify - I think DEI policies are complete bullshite. Get rid of it.

But this looks like overreach.

There are no white people threatened by these clubs.

Posted by Evolved Simian
Bushwood Country Club
Member since Sep 2010
23268 posts
Posted on 1/15/25 at 11:34 am to
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Ok I’ll stick with Black Engineers example…. then all the white students can join the Black Engineers club.

No more Black Engineers Club.


Not if it's university sponsored. Discrimination is illegal.
This post was edited on 1/15/25 at 11:38 am
Posted by Evolved Simian
Bushwood Country Club
Member since Sep 2010
23268 posts
Posted on 1/15/25 at 11:36 am to
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It is the State that is prohibiting.


Discrimination is illegal. That is what the state is prohibiting.

Posted by HagaDaga
Member since Oct 2020
7893 posts
Posted on 1/15/25 at 11:37 am to
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What about the other Texas schools participating in the conf

Exactly. I wonder if Abbott has said anything to that pretty long list of UT System schools. From yesterdays thread on this:
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Baylor University
Rice University
Texas Tech University
University of Houston
University of North Texas
University of Texas at Austin
University of Texas at Dallas
University of Texas at El Paso
University of Texas at Rio Grande Valley
University of Texas at San Antonio

Other notable universities include Auburn University, the Georgia Institute of Technology, Louisiana State University, the University of Notre Dame and the University of Oklahoma.
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