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re: Gov. Gavin Newsom’s ‘Great Leap Forward’ – DEI and Reparations Agriculture Land Seizure Sc

Posted on 12/30/25 at 5:05 pm to
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
42373 posts
Posted on 12/30/25 at 5:05 pm to
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It is the state bidding for the purchase property in a free market transaction.


So the state “bidding” against individuals is an example of the free market now? So alienating potential buyers, and artificially driving up the price is your idea of a free market huh?
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
42373 posts
Posted on 12/30/25 at 7:27 pm to
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Do you have anything of substance to add to the discussion


How is the lost tax revenue going to be made up after California goes full on commie?
Posted by EasterEgg
New Orleans Metro
Member since Sep 2018
5329 posts
Posted on 12/30/25 at 7:29 pm to
We are long overdue for another red scare.
Posted by RelentlessAnalysis
Trumpist Populism: Politics by LCD
Member since Oct 2025
2347 posts
Posted on 12/30/25 at 9:03 pm to
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So the state “bidding” against individuals is an example of the free market now?
As compared to seizure or eminent domain, yes. If the state (any state) wants own land (any land), it should buy that land in an arms-length transaction, with others having the same opportunity to purchase as the state. Exactly as this proposal is structured.
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So alienating potential buyers, and artificially driving up the price is your idea of a free market huh?
I don't know about "alienating buyers," but a motivated potential buyer in a free market will ALWAYS drive up the price, and that IS the reason that I said above that I would oppose such a proposal.

You don't "read so good," do you?
This post was edited on 12/30/25 at 9:11 pm
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
42373 posts
Posted on 12/31/25 at 12:05 am to
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I don't know about "alienating buyers," but a motivated potential buyer in a free market will ALWAYS drive up the price


Not if they are the ONLY buyer.

I find your lack of analysis to be stunning considering your username.
Posted by DMAN1968
Member since Apr 2019
12629 posts
Posted on 12/31/25 at 2:07 am to
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with others having the same opportunity to purchase as the state

Will others have the opportunity to use taxpayer funds to purchase the land?

No?

Then it isn't the same opportunity is it.

The state bidding against individuals on anything is pretty much the exact opposite of a free market system.
Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
18881 posts
Posted on 12/31/25 at 4:53 am to
Securing borders and ending DEI were slam-dunks for ANY Republican President. Although, WHY us Trump allowing 500,000 Chynese "students" into America? IN-SECURE policy, no? Thousands of Cartel members are still embedded in America. What about it?

There are 277K chinese students and the number has declined by 30% from a few years ago.

"Deportations"? Kinda. Sorta. However they're sandbagging the process.

600,000 bad hombres have been removed by ICE and another 1.9 million have self deported. BBB starts in January and several new holding facilities are being leased, over 10,000 additional ICE and border patrol personnel.

"Peace Deals"? All bullshite and hype if you examine the evidence. temporary "cease fires" are NOT "ending wars.

This is just an ignorant statement.

Moreover, America's leaders have actually and ironically contributed to catapulting war machine activity all over the place -- NONE of it justifiable.

"Trade deals"? Huh?? You can't be serious. Tariffs were a bug BUST.
US exports at an all time high.
The trade deficit is the lowest in four years.
30 billion monthly in tariff revenue with reduced inflation.


"Tax breaks"? For who? The very wealthy? In a crippled economy (Thanks in large part to Trump's 2020 Lockdown and paying people to NOT work) less people are actually paying taxes.
Some analyses show that working families making between $15,000 and $30,000 received the largest tax cut as a percentage of their income initially.
By the way, the top earners pay the most taxes, so any tax break applied evenly means the top earners will ALWAYS get the largest raw dollar break, that math you learn in the second grade, but it plays well with fools to yell "the rich get the biggest break".

"Corporate investments"? You mean like Palintir? AI Data Centers? Blackrock? Blackstone? State Street? They will ALL help demolish America's small and medium businesses as the conglomerate "investors" and international vultures monopolize and buy up America.
Yes, capital investment in the U.S. is generally increasing, driven by significant foreign direct investment (FDI),
Blackrock, Palantir these are domestic companies. Heck Blackrock is your retirement fund, are you suggesting they make bad investments?

You must have learned your math at the Learing Center

Posted by BrianKellysbuyout
Member since Nov 2025
557 posts
Posted on 12/31/25 at 5:02 am to
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Many posters on this site will be very stoked for Gav


There once was a time when people thought "Oh Bernie's not so bad." Well, Bernie was one of the ones that brought all of these ideas to the forefront. Now they're commonplace.
Posted by dakarx
Member since Sep 2018
8220 posts
Posted on 12/31/25 at 8:07 am to
A manufactured crisis so bad they need 4 years to study and create recommendations of how they think they might want to resolve it at some point in the future.......

This seems like a solid investment of time, money, and resources for Commiefornia.
Posted by SludgeFactory
Middle of Nowhere
Member since Jun 2025
2496 posts
Posted on 12/31/25 at 8:10 am to
Every progressive you know would support this, and just like in South Africa, they would love nothing more than to see land owners shot and killed if it came to that. Especially if the land owners were republican voters.
Posted by riverdiver
Summerville SC
Member since May 2022
2695 posts
Posted on 12/31/25 at 9:35 am to
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Here is the current working draft of the still-unfinished report.


Did you read all 127 pages of that?

It’s a democrats wet dream.

It covers turning over state lands to tribes, negotiating to give federal land to tribes, assuring tribes have access to coastal land, giving tribes more of a voice in political decisions, making this boondoggle program available to descendants of those who suffered under Spanish colonization, paying all fees associated with land transfer such as legal fees, surveying, etc, giving tenants leasing land more rights, assuring descendants of black slaves or Asians who were enslaved or were quarantined during WW2 get priority, regulating the size of home gardens, having a commission buy land, then hold it for aggrieved people until they can be assisted in getting loans (then forgiving the loans), making allowances for those with “citizenship issues”, and best of all, starting a state funded pension plan so that these farmers can have a retirement program.

It’s DEI on steroids, with a healthy dose of climate change mixed in. People will lose access to now public lands, tax money will be lost, and this program will cost hundreds of billions of $$. At least.

You have a farm or farmable land and want to sell it? A state commission or non profit will undercut the price, because tribes will get first right of refusal. You don’t get to negotiate a higher price with multiple bidders, you’ll have to sell for less and get a tax break instead.

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