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re: Google signs deal to use small modular nuclear reactors to power AI data centers
Posted on 10/15/24 at 11:09 am to Trevaylin
Posted on 10/15/24 at 11:09 am to Trevaylin
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Electric cost rates are expected to be higher than coal and gas, but lower than wind/solar
That's almost certainly accurate now, but at scale and over time, modular nukes will get better and cheaper. It will be the bridge to fusion. For you younger baws, fusion will likely be solved in your lifetimes, replacing all but some limited point of use, backup, etc. power sources by 2100 or shortly thereafter.
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Posted on 10/15/24 at 11:14 am to Ace Midnight
Yup. Just like EVs will get cheaper and more abundant.
Posted on 10/15/24 at 12:48 pm to lake chuck fan
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I posted a video about those portable mini nuclear reactors. It's brilliant and very safe.
Our country will have to begin building more nuclear power plants if we ever want to power all the electric cars and moving towards more powerful AI.
I'm not going to lie and profess that I don't have mixed emotions about these things.
And I'm pretty sure everyone already knows why, and at least to some degree share my concerns.
Posted on 10/15/24 at 1:40 pm to bluedragon
Less than 100 years from now, when we're mining and sending back to Earth Helium 3 (found in abundance on the moon, but just thimbles of it here on Earth) non-radioactive fusion generators will be able to power an area the size of DFW for a year on just a 100 pounds of Helium 3. Home power generators that use a small Helium 3 pellet the size of a couple of Tums antacid tablets will be common for rural homes, effectively disengaging from the high cost of transmission lines and potential loss of energy caused from storms taking out power lines.
*There is currently a huge behind-the-scenes race between the USA and China to stake out claims in areas to mine the moon. Helium 3 is Target Numero Uno.
**Private talks with high ranking senior NASA, SpaceX and Boeing personnel, plus a few DOE physicists at Los Alamos.
*There is currently a huge behind-the-scenes race between the USA and China to stake out claims in areas to mine the moon. Helium 3 is Target Numero Uno.
**Private talks with high ranking senior NASA, SpaceX and Boeing personnel, plus a few DOE physicists at Los Alamos.
Posted on 10/15/24 at 1:41 pm to TigerAxeOK
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I'm not going to lie and profess that I don't have mixed emotions about these things.
Micro reactors are the future. More decentralized and sustainable.
Posted on 10/15/24 at 1:44 pm to Jbird
Only about $8-10K per kW
Posted on 10/15/24 at 1:59 pm to Jbird
Impossible, leftists know they are not safe.
Posted on 10/15/24 at 2:19 pm to Jbird
Watch all the NIMBYS come out of the woodworks lol
Posted on 10/15/24 at 2:56 pm to Jbird
Seems like a great opportunity for a president to intervene in the affairs of Google, since they are now playing around with nuclear power. I mean, that's risky and poses a public safety threat. Have to make sure they are up to the task and that there are no nefarious actors involved.
Posted on 10/15/24 at 2:58 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Micro reactors are the future. More decentralized and sustainable.
The short shelf life presents some engineering issues because you dont refuel these things. You have to replace the entire reactor. Many of these small nukes are designed to last less than 5 years.
The maintenance personnel/skills required to maintain these sites will be interesting. Nuclear regulations are going to have to evolve a bit for this to progress to reality. Hopefully the US govt gets with the times.
Posted on 10/15/24 at 3:11 pm to bluedragon
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Wind and solar will never succeed.
Depends on where you put it and what the application is. My travel trailer has 600W of solar panels. If I expand my 200Ah of batteries to 400 Ah, I could charge them in 8.33 hours of good sunlight and they would run the trailer for 8 hours (lights, fridge, AND air conditioning). The problem is that everyone keeps trying to put wind and solar where they don't work. In Texas, solar works great, but you'll need a back-up generator or access to shore power for cloudy/rainy days. It's not a cure-all, but it definitely helps.
Posted on 10/15/24 at 3:29 pm to Jbird
Good. Needs to be one beside every major city in the US.
Posted on 10/15/24 at 3:49 pm to notsince98
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Google signs deal to use small modular nuclear reactors to power AI data centers
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Many of these small nukes are designed to last less than 5 years.
Could tech innovation not eventually increase that timeline, and ability to switch out the fuel to not have to switch out the whole thing?
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Someone mentioned a video on this...anyone have that link?
Posted on 10/15/24 at 4:01 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Micro reactors are the future. More decentralized and sustainable.
Micro reactors aren't really my issue. Their potential is off the charts and there's no denying it. I have always been a proponent of nuclear power and more "bang for buck" energy.
My issue is more with the "advancement of more powerful AI" part.
Posted on 10/15/24 at 4:20 pm to Jbird
i'm an elected official in a county in Mississippi, and we and the Governor's team are currently negotiating with a company that you'd recognize for a 300 Megawatt AI data center in our county. About a $3 Billion investment. There is a 500 Megawatt one going in one county north of us. Two 500 Megawatt data centers going in north of Jackson in Madison county. They're coming to MS for the available and affordable electricity. Those things consume massive amounts of electricity.
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