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re: Goldman Responds To Court Block Of Trump Tariffs: Nothingburger, White House Can Sidestep
Posted on 5/29/25 at 6:20 am to cadillacattack
Posted on 5/29/25 at 6:20 am to cadillacattack
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will be easily overturned on appeal
How do you figure?
Invoking emergency powers to apply a 10% across the board tariff didn’t sound like it had the strongest legal authority from the start.
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Posted on 5/29/25 at 6:20 am to TerraForma
SCOTUS already ruled (with Roberts writing the decision) that lower courts can't issue nationwide injunctions like that
Posted on 5/29/25 at 6:21 am to TerraForma
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Now the Admin should know, so I'm hopeful every move they make has some contingencies, particularly w/r/t Executive Orders.
Maybe follow the law in the first place? How on earth could trade imbalances have been emergencies under IEEPA when we have had trade imbalances most of our history? Was our trade imbalance with Uruguay REALLY an emergency?
Posted on 5/29/25 at 6:23 am to IvoryBillMatt
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You think finding the 10% across the board tariffs unjustified under IEEPA was the result of a "pliable federal judiciary?"
If you’re trying to claim they aren’t biased and overstepping their authority then you are simply gaslighting. The trade court didn’t even review the USTR reports … which are easily found: LINK
This will be easily overturned … don’t like it? …. get better lawyers …
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The Sec 301/302 investigation and process was completed by USTR Jamieson Greer, with extensive citation. USTR Greer published a 397-page investigative outcome detailing the “unreasonable and discriminatory” burdens to United States commerce.
The New York trade court literally ignored the 2025 USTR investigation, AND the 2025 Dept of Commerce review and investigation of the same based on the USTR published findings.
All of those factual investigative findings underpin the Presidential actions taken pursuant to his authority under the International Emergency Economic Powers Act.
This post was edited on 5/29/25 at 6:28 am
Posted on 5/29/25 at 6:24 am to IvoryBillMatt
Whose job is it to determine what an emergency is, the President or the Judiciary?? It’s the President’s boy wonder
Posted on 5/29/25 at 6:24 am to IvoryBillMatt
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imagine this as a nothingburger
Just imagine ignoring this court's ruling and moving forward... Let them enforce their ruling...
Posted on 5/29/25 at 6:24 am to IvoryBillMatt
quote:What is the greatest threat to US national security? Why was US credit just downgraded?
How on earth could trade imbalances have been emergencies under IEEPA when we have had trade imbalances most of our history?
Posted on 5/29/25 at 6:29 am to NC_Tigah
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What is the greatest threat to US national security? Why was US credit just downgraded?
Keeping eyes on the prize ^^^
This post was edited on 5/29/25 at 6:36 am
Posted on 5/29/25 at 6:30 am to Rip Torn
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Of course YOU don’t lol the Judiciary is infallible and Trump just needs better lawyers. It’s entertaining to watch you slowly morph into an odd variation of VOR and SFP all at once under the guise of “open mindedness”
The Judiciary is not infallible. Roe v Wade was a bogus decision. Sorry it took so long for it to be overturned.
I don't know what "open-mindedness" has to do with analyzing the law. Is there another way? Apparently, you only look at a court ruling as "Hurt Trump = Bad, Help Trump = Good." It doesn't occur to you whether or not the ruling was in accordance with the law.
Posted on 5/29/25 at 6:31 am to cadillacattack
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The Sec 301/302 investigation and process was completed by USTR Jamieson Greer, with extensive citation. USTR Greer published a 397-page investigative outcome detailing the “unreasonable and discriminatory” burdens to United States commerce.
Correct me if I’m wrong please, but the across the board tariffs and the majority of Chinese, Canadian, and Mexican tariffs were not invoked under section 301.
As Goldman Sachs points out, the president has other avenues to pursue tariffs, but arguing this case will be “easily overturned on appeal” seems to willfully ignore the facts.
Posted on 5/29/25 at 6:31 am to NC_Tigah
Ivory thinks that since years of incompetent politicians have allowed this to occur it isn’t really an emergency and it’s the job of thousands of federal judges to argue and debate about what an emergency actually is. It’s also the job of the Judiciary to determine immigration emergencies, wars, etc. per our resident legal experts. Just imagine if these scholarly judges were around during WW2, they would still be debating whether or not the Japanese attacked and if the President has the authority to respond
Posted on 5/29/25 at 6:31 am to cadillacattack
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It will be easily overturned on appeal
have any of the multitude of cases trump loses that maga always claims will be easily overturned on appeal actually been overturned on appeal? i'd imagine 1 or 2 have, just curious of the efficacy of this worn out battle cry
Posted on 5/29/25 at 6:31 am to TerraForma
We all know that the Robert’s SCOTUS does NOT like Executibe Orders. Nor should we. Congress is under GOP control. It is time for Congress to get off their arses and ratify what Trump has done. Case Closed.
Posted on 5/29/25 at 6:32 am to IvoryBillMatt
quote:Projection can be degrading. You're projecting.
It doesn't occur to you whether or not the ruling was in accordance with the law.
Posted on 5/29/25 at 6:33 am to IvoryBillMatt
Not in the least but it doesn’t take a genius to see that when the Judiciary tries to enforce exponentially more injunctions towards one President compared to all others combined that politics are in play.
Posted on 5/29/25 at 6:40 am to beaux duke
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have any of the multitude of cases trump loses that maga always claims will be easily overturned on appeal actually been overturned on appeal?
This thread isn’t discussing “a multitude” of cases, it is specific to the trade court decision … a trade court that was hasty and failed to review precedent …
Posted on 5/29/25 at 6:41 am to NC_Tigah
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What is the greatest threat to US national security? Why was US credit just downgraded?
We'll see if that theory survives all the way through the Supreme Court. So far, as the two Republican judges found, it doesn't look good re IEEPA authority.
Posted on 5/29/25 at 6:43 am to IvoryBillMatt
Maybe some folks have seen this. It's a pretty good vid explaining this court. It was in the other thread.
Posted on 5/29/25 at 6:48 am to IvoryBillMatt
Wow you and boosie look like idiots again
I thought it was trump judge
I thought it was trump judge
Posted on 5/29/25 at 6:48 am to IvoryBillMatt
Yes because a Republican has never appointed left wing judges lol there is no way you are a serious person
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