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Glenn Greenwald bitch slaps the New York Times.

Posted on 10/11/20 at 10:44 pm
Posted by 88Wildcat
Topeka, Ks
Member since Jul 2017
16984 posts
Posted on 10/11/20 at 10:44 pm
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THE NEW YORK TIMES GUILD, the union of employees of the Paper of Record, tweeted a condemnation on Sunday of one of their own colleagues, op-ed columnist Bret Stephens. Their denunciation was marred by humiliating typos and even more so by creepy and authoritarian censorship demands and petulant appeals to management for enforcement of company “rules” against other journalists. To say that this is bizarre behavior from a union of journalists, of all people, is to woefully understate the case.



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Without weighing in on the merits of Stephens’ critiques, some of which I agree with and some of which I do not, it is hardly debatable that his discussing this vibrant multi-pronged debate is squarely within his function as a political op-ed writer at a national newspaper. Stephens himself explained that he took the unusual step of critiquing his own employer’s work because “the 1619 Project has become, partly by its design and partly because of avoidable mistakes, a focal point of the kind of intense national debate that columnists are supposed to cover,” contending that avoiding writing about it out of collegial deference “is to be derelict in our responsibility” to participate in society’s significant disputes.

BUT HIS COLLEAGUES in the New York Times Guild evidently do not believe that he had any right to express his views on these debates. Indeed, they are indignant that he did so. In a barely-literate tweet that not once but twice misspelled the word “its” as “it’s” — not a trivial level of ignorance for writers with the world’s most influential newspaper — the union denounced Stephens and the paper itself on these grounds:


It is a short tweet, as tweets go, but they impressively managed to pack it with multiple ironies, fallacies, and decrees typical of the petty tyrant. Above all else, this statement, and the mentality it reflects, is profoundly unjournalistic.

To start with, this is a case of journalists using their union not to demand greater editorial freedom or journalistic independence — something one would reasonably expect from a journalists’ union — but demanding its opposite: that writers at the New York Times be prohibited by management from expressing their views and perspectives about the controversies surrounding the 1619 Project. In other words: they are demanding that their own journalistic colleagues be silenced and censored. What kind of journalists plead with management for greater restrictions on journalistic expression rather than fewer?

Apparently, the answer is New York Times journalists. Indeed, this is not the first time they have publicly implored corporate management to restrict the freedom of expression and editorial freedom of their journalistic colleagues. At the end of July, the Guild issued a series of demands, one of which was that “sensitivity reads should happen at the beginning of the publication process, with compensation for those who do them.”


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As creepy as “sensitivity readers” are for fiction writing and other publishing fields, it is indescribably toxic for journalism, which necessarily questions or pokes at rather than bows to the most cherished, sacred pieties. For it to be worthwhile, it must publish material — reporting and opinion pieces — that might be “potentially objectionable” to all sorts of powerful factions, including culturally hegemonic liberals.

But this is a function which the New York Times Union wants not merely to avoid fulfilling themselves but, far worse, to deny their fellow journalists. They crave a whole new layer of editorial hoop-jumping in order to get published, a cumbersome, repressive new protocol for drawing even more constraining lines around what can and cannot be said beyond the restrictions already imposed by the standard orthodoxies of the Times and their tone-flattening editorial restrictions.

When journalists exploit their unions not to demand better pay, improved benefits, enhanced job security or greater journalistic independence but instead as an instrument for censoring their own journalistic colleagues, then the concept of unions — and journalism — is wildly perverted.

Then there is the tattletale petulance embedded in the Union’s complaint. In demanding enforcement of workplace “rules” by management against a fellow journalist — they do not specify which sacred “rule” Stephens allegedly violated — these union members sound more like Human Resources Assistant Managers or workplace informants than they do intrepid journalists. Since when do unions of any kind, but especially unions of journalists, unite to complain that corporate managers and their editorial bosses have been too lax in the enforcement of rules governing what their underlings can and cannot say?


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If you are eager to constrict the boundaries of expression, why would you choose journalism of all lines of work? It’d be like someone who believes space travel to be an immoral waste of resources opting to become an astronaut for NASA.

Perhaps these tawdry episodes should be unsurprising. After all, one major reason that social media companies — which never wanted the obligation to censor but instead sought to be content-neutral platforms for the transmission of communications in the mold of AT&T — turned into active speech regulators was because the public, often led by journalists, began demanding that they censor more. Some journalists even devote significant chunks of their career to publicly complaining that Facebook and Twitter are failing to enforce their “rules” by not censoring robustly enough.

A belief in the virtues of free expression was once a cornerstone of the journalistic spirit. Guilds and unions fought against editorial control, not demanded greater amounts be imposed by management. They defended colleagues when they were accused by editorial or corporate bosses of “rules” violations, not publicly tattled and invited, even advocated for, workplace disciplinary measures.

But a belief in free expression is being rapidly eclipsed in many societal sectors by a belief in the virtues of top-down managerial censorship, silencing and enhanced workplace punishment for thought and speech transgressions. As this imperious but whiny New York Times Guild condemnation reflects, this trend can be seen most vividly, and most destructively, in mainstream American journalism. Nothing guts the core function of journalism more than this mindset.
Posted by salty1
Member since Jun 2015
5167 posts
Posted on 10/11/20 at 10:49 pm to
Damn man. I read the first five or six paragraphs and still don’t understand how he “bitch slaps” them.

ETA: Okay, you have to click the link to understand the context. I’ve personally never heard of this guy. Glad someone called them out for their crap.

The media (apparently just about all of it) is nothing more than the mouth piece of the propaganda branch of the NWO.

This country, and basically the free world, is all but lost. It took them a few decades to brainwash and put in place their operatives, but they are firmly in control. I pray (even though I’m not religious) that Trump wins a second term and continues to clean out the traitorous scum that occupy every facet of our government.
This post was edited on 10/11/20 at 10:57 pm
Posted by prplhze2000
Parts Unknown
Member since Jan 2007
58166 posts
Posted on 10/11/20 at 10:53 pm to
Times is run by Black Supremacists.
Posted by Diseasefreeforall
Member since Oct 2012
7371 posts
Posted on 10/11/20 at 10:55 pm to
The Times published an op-ed critique of the 1619 Project and in response the Times employees union sent a tweet "marred by humiliating typos and even more so by creepy and authoritarian censorship demands" demanding that Times management no longer allow such critical thinking.

The rabble are worse than the upper crust.
This post was edited on 10/11/20 at 10:57 pm
Posted by prplhze2000
Parts Unknown
Member since Jan 2007
58166 posts
Posted on 10/11/20 at 11:00 pm to
Posted by kclsufan
Show Me
Member since Jun 2008
12101 posts
Posted on 10/11/20 at 11:11 pm to
Marxists are marxists first and everything else second.
Posted by prplhze2000
Parts Unknown
Member since Jan 2007
58166 posts
Posted on 10/11/20 at 11:28 pm to
Tweet removed. Now the Guild is back pedaling, saying someone posted it without any discussion or authorization.
Posted by LSUGrrrl
Frisco, TX
Member since Jul 2007
46367 posts
Posted on 10/11/20 at 11:30 pm to
That “bitch slap” is based on the premises of free speech and free press. Those advocating for the censorship we see today believe in neither.
Posted by PEEPO
Member since Sep 2020
1820 posts
Posted on 10/12/20 at 12:36 am to
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Times is run by Black Supremacists.


Superficially. They give a platform to those people.

Look a little deeper to see who actually runs it.

The same people who run every other "mainstream" media outlet.
Posted by GeorgeTheGreek
Sparta, Greece
Member since Mar 2008
69161 posts
Posted on 10/12/20 at 12:39 am to
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ETA: Okay, you have to click the link to understand the context. I’ve personally never heard of this guy.


He broke the Snowden mass surveillance story.
Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
19961 posts
Posted on 10/12/20 at 4:03 am to
Always follow the money.

Carlos Slim is the largest shareholder of NYT, he would like nothing more than open borders.

He is a "business" owner in Mexico. He owns Telmex as well as several other phone companies in central America. The long distance phone service between these countries and the US is enormous...and growing with each illegal that crosses the border.

He owns Bank of Mexico and the wire transfers of billions of dollars from the US diaspora to their home country.

He also, by default, launders billions of dollars in illegal activities.

When Trump became president, the first prominent Mexican he met with was not the president, nor the incoming president, but, you guessed it Carlos Slim. Trump knows the players, he no doubt told Slim to shut his pie hole about the wall or he would start taxing the remittances coming across the border, the long distance phone services outside of the US and various other sundry and useful tactics to bitch slap the fat corrupt pig. Dont think Wall Street knows this, when Trump won, while the stock market soared, Carlos lost billions in a week.

4D chess indeed. Hold my president's Diet Coke, he's got this.
Posted by Strannix
C.S.A.
Member since Dec 2012
53710 posts
Posted on 10/12/20 at 4:22 am to
frick Glenn Greenwald, they've been creeping towards this for 80 years, here you are pal. Journalism died generations ago
Posted by Warfox
B.R. Native (now in MA)
Member since Apr 2017
3832 posts
Posted on 10/12/20 at 4:48 am to
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Tweet removed. Now the Guild is back pedaling, saying someone posted it without any discussion or authorization.


I’m surprised they didn’t claim they we’re “hacked”.
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