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re: Glacial melt has tripled in the Amundsen Sea
Posted on 12/4/14 at 1:41 pm to SpidermanTUba
Posted on 12/4/14 at 1:41 pm to SpidermanTUba
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Net carbon emission damages the environment. People keep buying it. So you are wrong. Duh
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Posted on 12/4/14 at 1:43 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
quote:Well, how bad will it be if temperatures rise to 1000F? Turrible I'd reckon. We can make up stuff all day.
I was just referring to the "hyperbolic doomsday predictions", not necessarily the IPCC.
quote:Probably a less costly than giving up modern standard of living.
But at what cost?
Posted on 12/4/14 at 1:48 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
quote:That's still a far cry from your 65m... Everyone has a guess. None of the realistic ones look very scary to me. Sorry. I just don't think we are so helpless that we will simply drown in tides that rise at a rate of 3 feet over a century.
A recent study says we can expect the oceans to rise between 2.5 and 6.5 feet (0.8 and 2 meters) by 2100
If you're a true believer... don't buy oceanfront property. You'll be fine.
Of course... the greater the crisis... the greater the emotion... the more likely to drop rationality and pay more taxes.
You're being worked.
This post was edited on 12/4/14 at 1:50 pm
Posted on 12/4/14 at 1:49 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
I don't see anywhere in the links you provided where it says what you posted earlier:
What I did see is the following, which is projecting out 85 years from now as opposed to the "100 years" you mentioned earlier.
Critiquing Al Gore's infamous An Inconvenient Truth, released in 2006, "As Greenland’s ice sheets collapse, Gore predicts that our shores will be flooded and sea-bordering cities will sink beneath the water leaving millions of people homeless. His narration tells the audience that, due to global warming, melting ice could release enough water to cause at 20-foot rise in sea level “in the near future.""
"Although he doesn’t give a clear time frame for the 20-foot sea level rise, Gore’s statement seems to contradict several recent reports, including one published in 2008, that predict much smaller rises during this century.”
LINK
Voodoo "science" that has become a religion to the big government promoters.
quote:
the resulting release of water to the oceans would raise sea-level by about 65 meters.
What I did see is the following, which is projecting out 85 years from now as opposed to the "100 years" you mentioned earlier.
quote:
we can expect the oceans to rise between 2.5 and 6.5 feet (0.8 and 2 meters) by 2100,
Critiquing Al Gore's infamous An Inconvenient Truth, released in 2006, "As Greenland’s ice sheets collapse, Gore predicts that our shores will be flooded and sea-bordering cities will sink beneath the water leaving millions of people homeless. His narration tells the audience that, due to global warming, melting ice could release enough water to cause at 20-foot rise in sea level “in the near future.""
"Although he doesn’t give a clear time frame for the 20-foot sea level rise, Gore’s statement seems to contradict several recent reports, including one published in 2008, that predict much smaller rises during this century.”
LINK
Voodoo "science" that has become a religion to the big government promoters.
Posted on 12/4/14 at 1:52 pm to LSURussian
LSURussian - does the article you linked to talk about the Antarctic ice sheet - or the Antarctic sea ice?
Posted on 12/4/14 at 1:53 pm to SpidermanTUba
quote:
denialist
Just what does this mean?? Is this like you calling someone racist and you think the argument is over..??
Posted on 12/4/14 at 2:03 pm to LSURussian
The fact is that I wasn't quoting anyone's specific prediction, only that the Greenland and Antarctic ice sheets contain enough water that if they melted sea level would rise by 65 meters, not counting thermal expansion. That is simply taking the volume of water that would be added to the world's oceans.
The fact is that even a 2-3 meter rise would affect our economy significantly.
The fact is that even a 2-3 meter rise would affect our economy significantly.
Posted on 12/4/14 at 2:04 pm to Jim Ignatowski
Here's a great prediction by Al Gore made in 2008:
quote:LINK Gore's "five years" were up about one year ago.....and the north polar ice cap is still there.
Nature proves Al Gore wrong again Anthony Watts / December 16, 2013
Gore’s “ice free Arctic” prediction from five years ago, falsified by nature itself The great bloviator has been pwned again, by the actions of nature itself. In Germany, five years ago this past Saturday, Al Gore claimed that the ““Entire north polar ice cap will be gone in 5 years” .
Posted on 12/4/14 at 2:07 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
quote:But you said it would happen in 100 years in answer to my question.
The fact is that I wasn't quoting anyone's specific prediction, only that the Greenland and Antarctic ice sheets contain enough water that if they melted sea level would rise by 65 meters
Were you quoting someone from memory on that or were you just pulling a number out of thin air?
Posted on 12/4/14 at 2:51 pm to Y.A. Tittle
90% of earth's glaciers are melting.
Not local.
Not local.
Posted on 12/4/14 at 2:52 pm to LSURussian
quote:
But you said it would happen in 100 years in answer to my question.
Here's the exchange:
quote:quote:
[You]: What is the time frame for your hypothetical question?
[Me]: Say 100 years.
quote:
Were you quoting someone from memory on that or were you just pulling a number out of thin air?
Figure it out.
It was a hypothetical question with hypothetical parameters. - except for the sea level rise. I got that number from an estimate made by Robert Muller in the 80s simply based on the volume of water held by the ice sheets of Antarctica and Greenland and the resultant rise in sea level from introduction of that volume to the world's oceans. It had no time frame associated with it.
Posted on 12/4/14 at 2:55 pm to samson'sseed
Speaking of Glaciers..
LINK
quote:
GLACIER NATIONAL PARK, Mont. —
What will they call this place once the glaciers are gone?
A century ago, this sweep of mountains on the Canadian border boasted some 150 ice sheets, many of them scores of feet thick, plastered across summits and tucked into rocky fissures high above parabolic valleys. Today, perhaps 25 survive.
quote:
Streams fed by snowmelt are reaching peak spring flows weeks earlier than in the past, and low summer flows weeks before they used to. Some farmers who depend on irrigation in the parched days of late summer are no longer sure that enough water will be there. Bull trout, once pan-fried over anglers’ campfires, are now caught and released to protect a population that is shrinking as water temperatures rise.
Many of the mom-and-pop ski areas that once peppered these mountains have closed. Increasingly, the season is not long enough, nor the snows heavy enough, to justify staying open.
LINK
This post was edited on 12/4/14 at 2:56 pm
Posted on 12/4/14 at 2:58 pm to samson'sseed
quote:And have been for the last 10,000 to 12,000 years, or IOW since the last Ice Age.
90% of earth's glaciers are melting.
Posted on 12/4/14 at 3:01 pm to samson'sseed
quote:
90% of earth's glaciers are melting.
Been happening for hundreds of years. Thousands before the little ice age.
Posted on 12/4/14 at 3:03 pm to RogerTheShrubber
quote:Roger, I bet you didn't know that those mastadons who used to live in Alaska all drove 8-cylinder SUV's.......
Been happening for hundreds of years. Thousands before the little ice age.
Posted on 12/4/14 at 3:09 pm to LSURussian
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Roger, I bet you didn't know that those mastadons who used to live in Alaska all drove 8-cylinder SUV's.......
I'll bet all the saber-tooth cats were roadside with protest signs back in the day.
Posted on 12/4/14 at 3:11 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Posted on 12/4/14 at 3:16 pm to Taxing Authority
quote:Stuff like:
Well, how bad will it be if temperatures rise to 1000F? Turrible I'd reckon. We can make up stuff all day.
quote:
giving up modern standard of living.
Posted on 12/4/14 at 3:40 pm to LSURussian
LSURussian - does the article you linked to talk about the Antarctic ice sheet - or the Antarctic sea ice?
Posted on 12/4/14 at 3:43 pm to samson'sseed
quote:
90% of earth's glaciers are melting.
Not local.
FACT. Unless we're in an ice age....glaciers are always melting faster than they replenish.
WTF is wrong with you people?
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