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re: Given that it is entirely unconstitutional to deploy the MIL on US soil, what gives?
Posted on 1/21/21 at 7:23 am to conservativewifeymom
Posted on 1/21/21 at 7:23 am to conservativewifeymom
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I was wondering why it is unconstitutional to deploy the mothers-in-law of this land on US soil!
Because that would be considered cruel and unusual punishment towards whomever they faced.
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Posted on 1/21/21 at 7:31 am to HabaneroBuck
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So you are arguing that Trump ordered the Guard, Federal Marshalls, Federal DOC teams, and the like to DC in order to watch Biden's peaceful inauguration?
And you are arguing, instead of the very simple explanation that Trump signed off, that it was some super secret government operation that had ulterior motives and did something super secret and scary?
You need to watch less TV
This post was edited on 1/21/21 at 7:32 am
Posted on 1/21/21 at 7:32 am to BoarEd
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Absolutely.
Nope, again.
FEMA was not in charge of the operation in D.C. I know the concept is difficult for you to grasp given all the misinformation you have absorbed and spewed over this board...
However, the Secret Service is the LFA for security of the inauguration, so they requested assistance. The FBI is the LFA for crisis response, counter terrorism, etc in the NCR, so they requested assistance. The D.C. mayor requested assistance, the Capitol Police requested assistance, the Park Service requested assistance...
FEMA is the LFA for disaster assistance and response... If they played any role in the NCR for the inauguration, it was in support of another LFA...
Posted on 1/21/21 at 7:35 am to rebeloke
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Oh and did anyone happen to notice at what time Biden was sworn in?
About ten minutes to noon, give or take? Was it a super secret code that means the military is taking over? Is FEMA swooping in under the Stafford Act to make arrests?
Posted on 1/21/21 at 7:36 am to The Maj
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FEMA was not in charge of the operation in D.C. I know the concept is difficult for you to grasp given all the misinformation you have absorbed and spewed over this board...
But the StAfFoRD aCt mAKeS FEMA the MoSt pOweRfUl ageNcy!!!1!!
Posted on 1/21/21 at 7:44 am to rebeloke
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The question is not whether you can use the National Guard is the manner in which they are being used same for the Coast Guard.
The National Guard walks in 3 worlds:
1. State Active Duty - State control, reports to the governor, state pays. Can be utilized for or as LE without limitation other than state statutes. If federal equipment is utilized, the federal government is reimbursed.
2. Title 32 - normal "drill" status, can be called to AD under Title 32, state control, reports to the governor, Federal Government normally pays. Allows for use as LE within the State borders or within the framework of a State compact under the direction of another government that accepts them in a Title 32 status.
3. Title 10 - "federal" active duty, which is where all the Posse Comitatus, etc kicks in and significantly limits how they can be utilized.
The Coast Guard operates under Title 18, which affords them LE powers, which are typically restricted to navigable waters of the U.S. They can be mobilized and operate under the USN.
Most of the National Guard troops that were in D.C. were there under a State Compact that D.C. is a part of that provides mutual support for NSSE (National Security Special Events) - inaugurations, super bowls, olympics, SOTUA, etc. Their status as Title 32 in most situations, which is a sidestep of Posse Comitatus.
As far as swearing in with the U.S. Marshals this was to cover the Marshals and the soliders if the detention of U.S. personnel became necessary. While most rarely hear about this, it has been done before and NG troops have been sworn in as Border Patrol and DEA when they are working along the border in interdiction operations...
Posted on 1/21/21 at 7:46 am to rebeloke
We literally rolled tanks and the actual Army through the streets back in the Great Depression to shut down a WWI Vet protest.
Yet here we are. Both sides act like this has never happened before but it has.
Yet here we are. Both sides act like this has never happened before but it has.
Posted on 1/21/21 at 7:48 am to The Maj
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The Maj
He's not going to stop. He wrote a thesis last night about all the new "evidence" that yesterday was all still part of Q's plan and that we aren't even near the precipice. His Q days have only just begun in his mind.
Posted on 1/21/21 at 7:49 am to Indefatigable
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But the StAfFoRD aCt mAKeS FEMA the MoSt pOweRfUl ageNcy!!!1!!
He thinks that because they are officially housed under the Department of Homeland Security. He's cuckoo.
Posted on 1/21/21 at 7:49 am to rebeloke
Shows POWER and CONTROL over the peasants, "We, the People". Nothing short of symbolic ala Russia and China.
Posted on 1/21/21 at 8:00 am to rebeloke
I’m not that familiar with the NG so please correct me if I’m wrong, but the weird part is how the “deployment” is from many relatively small units from around the US. Couldn’t they have accomplished this with fewer, larger units? It’s almost like every state has a delegation
Posted on 1/21/21 at 8:03 am to rebeloke
Probably because the left rioted at the last inauguration.
Posted on 1/21/21 at 8:04 am to rebeloke
Washington DC is considered a Foreign entity based on it being DC being a corporation...so technically they arent deployed on US soil
Posted on 1/21/21 at 8:07 am to BoarEd
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This will be my last night posting on this site.
Promise?
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Yep.
That didn't take long.
Posted on 1/21/21 at 8:11 am to LSUfan20005
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I’m not that familiar with the NG so please correct me if I’m wrong, but the weird part is how the “deployment” is from many relatively small units from around the US. Couldn’t they have accomplished this with fewer, larger units? It’s almost like every state has a delegation
Given the number of NG troops deployed, it is not uncommon to see it done in a manner like this. Also, the Lead Federal Agency requests capabilities, not specific units then the capabilities are filled accordingly...
Under the existing compacts a governor may have an MP Battalion in his/her State but would only be willing to offer an MP Company considering the current state of deployments and the need to keep some capabilites at home...
Posted on 1/21/21 at 9:44 am to Indefatigable
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About ten minutes to noon, give or take? Was it a super secret code that means the military is taking over? Is FEMA swooping in under the Stafford Act to make arrests?
Kind of odd to swear in a new POTUS while you still have a sitting POTUS whose term did not end until 1201, don’t you think? Also, what if that was not a live broadcast but prerecorded? That would mean it took place even further prior to Trump’s term ending.
Posted on 1/21/21 at 9:51 am to TigerStripes30
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Washington DC is considered a Foreign entity based on it being DC being a corporation...so technically they arent deployed on US soil
This! This guy gets it.
Posted on 1/21/21 at 9:56 am to Placekicker
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Washington DC is considered a Foreign entity based on it being DC being a corporation...so technically they arent deployed on US soil
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This! This guy gets it.
Apparently neither of you get it...
Who the frick told you that Washington D.C. is not U.S. soil?
Posted on 1/21/21 at 9:57 am to Oates Mustache
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He's not going to stop. He wrote a thesis last night about all the new "evidence" that yesterday was all still part of Q's plan and that we aren't even near the precipice. His Q days have only just begun in his mind.
I tried to get him to explain it, but he basically said he didn't want to research it to possibly prove it wrong
I did research it however. The "11.3" he keeps referring to comes from the Dept. of Defense "Law of War Manual" which is not U.S. Code like he said. The Law of War Manual is just that, a manual covering international law as it relates to war.
Posted on 1/21/21 at 9:57 am to The Maj
This is where the goalposts are now for the Q movement.
Just let them be.
Just let them be.
This post was edited on 1/21/21 at 9:57 am
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