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re: "Give me Liberty or give me death"
Posted on 4/23/20 at 2:42 pm to PEPE
Posted on 4/23/20 at 2:42 pm to PEPE
My favorite part of that speech:
If we wish to be free — if we mean to preserve inviolate those inestimable privileges for which we have been so long contending — if we mean not basely to abandon the noble struggle in which we have been so long engaged, and which we have pledged ourselves never to abandon until the glorious object of our contest shall be obtained — we must fight! I repeat it, sir, we must fight! An appeal to arms and to the God of hosts is all that is left to us.
If we wish to be free — if we mean to preserve inviolate those inestimable privileges for which we have been so long contending — if we mean not basely to abandon the noble struggle in which we have been so long engaged, and which we have pledged ourselves never to abandon until the glorious object of our contest shall be obtained — we must fight! I repeat it, sir, we must fight! An appeal to arms and to the God of hosts is all that is left to us.
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Posted on 4/23/20 at 2:44 pm to PEPE
The following is a passage by Isaiah Berlin that addresses this:
There is all too little disbelief, whether conscienceless or apathetic, in the new values. On the contrary, they are clung to with unreasoning faith and that blind intolerance towards scepticism (editors note: This is political correctness) which springs, as often as not, from an inner bankruptcy or terror, the hope against hope that here at least is a safe haven, narrow, dark, cut off, but secure. Growing numbers of human beings are prepared to purchase this sense of security even at the cost of allowing vast tracts of life to be controlled by persons who, whether consciously or not, act systematically to narrow the horizon of human activity to manageable proportions, to train human beings into more easily combined parts - interchangeable, almost prefabricated - of a total pattern. In the face of such a strong desire to stabilise, if need be, at the lowest level - upon the floor from which you cannot fall, which cannot betray you, let you down - all the ancient political principles begin to vanish, feeble symbols of creeds no longer relevant to new realities".
There is all too little disbelief, whether conscienceless or apathetic, in the new values. On the contrary, they are clung to with unreasoning faith and that blind intolerance towards scepticism (editors note: This is political correctness) which springs, as often as not, from an inner bankruptcy or terror, the hope against hope that here at least is a safe haven, narrow, dark, cut off, but secure. Growing numbers of human beings are prepared to purchase this sense of security even at the cost of allowing vast tracts of life to be controlled by persons who, whether consciously or not, act systematically to narrow the horizon of human activity to manageable proportions, to train human beings into more easily combined parts - interchangeable, almost prefabricated - of a total pattern. In the face of such a strong desire to stabilise, if need be, at the lowest level - upon the floor from which you cannot fall, which cannot betray you, let you down - all the ancient political principles begin to vanish, feeble symbols of creeds no longer relevant to new realities".
Posted on 4/23/20 at 2:46 pm to viceman
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“Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn't pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same, or one day we will spend our sunset years telling our children and our children's children what it was once like in the United States where men were free.”
Ronald Reagan
Probably Peggy Noonan, not Reagan. But I was a fan
Posted on 4/23/20 at 2:49 pm to Paddyshack
The stretched lobe ear piercing is a nice touch 
Posted on 4/23/20 at 2:49 pm to Homesick Tiger
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Here's another one that Dems, liberals and the media have come to abhor -
"ask not what your country can do for you — ask what you can do for your country."
Well, you have that backwards. It is a saying that should be loathsome to all on the right, and it should be adored by the left. It is unamerican. America was created on the opposite principle, that the country is for the individual, not the other way around.
Posted on 4/23/20 at 2:51 pm to Penrod
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Probably Peggy Noonan, not Reagan. But I was a fan
Well maybe if she wrote speeches for Reagan in 1967.
Posted on 4/23/20 at 2:51 pm to viceman
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Benjamin Franklin once said: "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety
And an even better version by Winston Churchill.
We had a choice between war and dishonor. We chose dishonor. We shall have war.
By memory, so it might be a little off.
Posted on 4/23/20 at 2:53 pm to FreddieMac
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No one is trying to steal your rights and no one is willing to give them up.
Speaking of fallacies, these are mutually exclusive conditions, where our rights have indeed been curtailed.
Posted on 4/23/20 at 2:54 pm to Penrod
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And an even better version by Winston Churchill.
We had a choice between war and dishonor. We chose dishonor. We shall have war.
By memory, so it might be a little off.
I'll allow it, that man is welcome in conversations about freedom, he has some of the best all time quotes. My favorite was what he told the woman who called him drunk "Yes, but in the morning I'll Be sober. And you will still be ugly."
Posted on 4/23/20 at 2:55 pm to viceman
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and he would also bankrupt the Soviets with an arms race and defeat the greatest threat to the west in the history of the world, without so much as firing a shot and you call this man a cuck
Upvoted you, although there were a LOT of shots fired.
Posted on 4/23/20 at 2:56 pm to Bender the Great
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Well maybe if she wrote speeches for Reagan in 1967.
Well, I don't think she was writing for him THAT far back.
Posted on 4/23/20 at 2:58 pm to viceman
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he has some of the best all time quotes.
I met his grandson a few months ago. He is a member of parliament and a dipshit.
Posted on 4/23/20 at 3:05 pm to Penrod
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Upvoted you, although there were a LOT of shots fired.
yeah I regretted that, almost changed it
You know it is fine if he doesn't like Reagan because of a single issue. Reagan did cave on that, and he has every right to be upset about it. It is that he called him a cuck. Reagan was many things in his life, and even a democrat. But I can say without hesitation, he was never a cuck.
Posted on 4/23/20 at 3:07 pm to PEPE
“Bunch of slack jawed fa****s around here. This stuff will make a goddamn sexual tyrannosaurus. Just like me.”
- Sgt. Blain Cooper
- Sgt. Blain Cooper
This post was edited on 4/23/20 at 4:09 pm
Posted on 4/23/20 at 3:09 pm to Redleg Guy
Reagan was a cuck, he sold out the country by granting amnesty to 3 million illegals
Posted on 4/23/20 at 3:18 pm to PEPE
Take your own life, mr. Victim.
Posted on 4/23/20 at 3:24 pm to PEPE
Posted on 4/23/20 at 3:30 pm to PEPE
"Give me college football or give me death."
Last season was magical for us, and now it may never come back in the form we've come to know and love.
Last season was magical for us, and now it may never come back in the form we've come to know and love.
Posted on 4/23/20 at 3:32 pm to PEPE
Give me free stuff or I will vote Democrat
America 2020
America 2020
Posted on 4/23/20 at 4:22 pm to PEPE
Another fitting quote for today’s issue comes from Thomas Paine. Even though Paine would go on to be somewhat caustic, these words are timeless.
THESE are the times that try men’s souls.
THESE are the times that try men’s souls.
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