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re: Get Digging! 2800 JFK Documents Released.
Posted on 10/26/17 at 11:36 pm to Blizzard of Chizz
Posted on 10/26/17 at 11:36 pm to Blizzard of Chizz
Figured this would come out and no one would believe it
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Posted on 10/26/17 at 11:41 pm to Mynadsitch78
Same. I think he was involved, but I don’t think it hit him until he was in the theatre that he’d been set up.
Posted on 10/26/17 at 11:43 pm to GRTiger
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Why is this Potito guy important?
Is that long I as in teet or a short I as in tit?
You say Potito, I say Poteeto
Posted on 10/26/17 at 11:51 pm to NIH
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You seem upset
I don't give a shite either way. If there is real evidence for a big time conspiracy, fine. It''l make for a hell of a book and movie.
Posted on 10/27/17 at 12:48 am to antibarner
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The ONE thing I cannot believe is Jack Ruby just getting angry and taking out Oswald. I don't buy it.
Ruby's action and the timeline of those actions in the hour before he killed Oswald shows what he did was totally random with no prior plan, him crossing paths with Oswald when he did was nothing but pure luck.
Posted on 10/27/17 at 1:16 am to Blizzard of Chizz
quote:That was Roger Craig. He's one of my favorite players of the whole event. He has a 45 minute or so interview you can find on youtube that's really good. They tried to kill him several times before they finally got him. Two shotgun blasts to the chest. Funny to mention, he didn't own a shotgun and it was ruled a suicide. He also saw someone run from the depository and get into a rambler. He actually identified Oswald to Captain Fritz at the police headquarters that he was the man he saw running from the building. He also found the chicken bones and coke that was on the 6th floor. He stated that the shell casings were lined up perfectly next to each other on the floor. Because spent shell casings usually just fall perfectly straight when ejected from a weapon.
The other thing that I found pretty interesting in reading up on this stuff the past weekend was the rifle was initially identified as a German made Mauser. You can find tons of old news reports saying this. The interview I saw was with a cop who was there when the gun was found. He said it was identified as a Mauser because on the barrel of the gun it was stamped with the word Mauser. A correction later was issued to say it wasn’t a Mauser but an Italian rifle... now when the warren commission was having the rifle tested, they couldn’t sight it in at all. They actually had to add metal shims underneath the scope to sight it in and make it accurate. So Oswald purchases these cheap pos weapons, one which can’t be sighted in and the other which couldn’t be fired because it was bent internally, and yet he made three incredible shots to kill Kennedy and killed Tippit with a pistol that wouldn’t fire. Seems completely legit.
Posted on 10/27/17 at 1:31 am to Blizzard of Chizz
quote:As would be expected, the Tippit angle gets overshadowed in most JFK conversations. Joseph McBride,in my opinion, has done the best research of the Tippit murder. A Dallas PD dispatcher claimed that he sent Tippit to that area because they needed coverage in Oak Cliff due to the manpower being diverted to Dealey Plaza. Also of note, the witnesses and people interviewed all knew JD. He was a regular in the area even though it wasn't his beat(Ruby lived close by). There were several witness who described a man resembling Ruby as the Tippit shooter and quite a few said it was two men. McBride was the first person to interview JD's dad who said a fellow officer visited the widow and told her that he and Tippit had been sent to find Oswald. The fellow officer felt really bad because he was in a car accident on the way to Oak Cliff(the record of which does exist). It's just very curious that they were sent to find Oswald when at the time they only had a description and wouldn't know his name till some hours later.Also, WHO sent them to find LHO?
I read suspicions about this as well. That’s actually pretty interesting. The theory I had read was that Tippit and Oswald knew each other. It’s even suspected that he actually gave Oswald a ride to the theatre. Like I said, Tippit was shot in an area that was not part of his regular patrol. There is so much more to this story than we’ve been told.
Posted on 10/27/17 at 6:26 am to Fun Bunch
quote:Correct.
It's a transcription from some guy who made a speech claiming it.
E.g., There was no bullethole in the front windshield. There was a crack in the glass created during the shooting. It was on the inside of the windshield.
But the crack is important nonetheless. There is a photo known as "Altgens6" taken by an AP Photographer from front and left of the JFK limo, just after the first shot.(JFK grabbing for his neck, Connelly starting to turn, approximates timing of Zapruter frame 255)
It appears to show the windshield crack. It also shows the impossible "alignment" of the shot coming from the 6th floor (i.e., just above the oak tree). Keep in mind, this is the famed "magic bullet" shot. A fragment from a disintegrating projectile cracking the windshield at that point would destroy the "magic bullet" theory. (the "magic bullet" was pristine).
Posted on 10/27/17 at 6:26 am to Jake88
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a big time conspiracy, fine.
What if it's a small group conspiracy...
As Tippet get closer to Oswald IS A these docs, Veciana is also mentioned in the docs as a lead Army agent running alpha66...also said they killed Kennedy yesterday
Oswald was associated with anti-castro (alpha66) with David Ferry
He was associated with the pro-castro (FPCC) groups as well..
Both of these groups are CIA and proven so throughout these documents released...this connection has never formally been made before, that Oswald was officially connected to the CIA.
Why did the Warren report cover that up?
This post was edited on 10/27/17 at 6:30 am
Posted on 10/27/17 at 6:35 am to EA6B
Dallas has a lot of underground walkways downtown and Ruby was staying in the hotel cata-corner to the municipal building where there was a tunnel and that is how he accessed the basement of the police hq
Posted on 10/27/17 at 7:10 am to GEAUXmedic
British newspaper received mystery call 25 minutes before JFK assassination
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The caller only said that the reporter should call the Americans Embassy in London for some big news and then hung up
This post was edited on 10/27/17 at 7:12 am
Posted on 10/27/17 at 7:26 am to Hooligan's Ghost
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Dallas has a lot of underground walkways downtown and Ruby was staying in the hotel cata-corner to the municipal building where there was a tunnel
Maybe the alleyway door between the DPD building and Western Union?
Posted on 10/27/17 at 7:47 am to GEAUXmedic
Posted on 10/27/17 at 7:48 am to NC_Tigah
I haven't read through this whole thread, but i really hope some of you aren't conflating the movie "JFK" with Kevin Costner with real life. The "facts" presented in the movie were overly dramatized and for the most part, fabricated.
Posted on 10/27/17 at 7:58 am to BugAC
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i really hope some of you aren't conflating the movie "JFK" with Kevin Costner with real life. The "facts" presented in the movie were overly dramatized
As with anything Stone touches, his "JFK" movie was polluted with BS.
I presume though you're talking about the debunked claims of an actual bullet "hole" in the windshield I was referring to?
Posted on 10/27/17 at 8:05 am to NC_Tigah
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I presume though you're talking about the debunked claims of an actual bullet "hole" in the windshield I was referring to?
Wasn't necessarily referring to you. Just reading through some stuff in this thread, and i caught snippets that came from the JFK movie. I love the movie, BTW. Very good drama. But it needs to be taken with a grain of salt, and many people believe it is a documentary.
Posted on 10/27/17 at 8:09 am to BugAC
quote:That's an insult to the price of salt.
But it needs to be taken with a grain of salt
Posted on 10/27/17 at 8:12 am to NC_Tigah
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NC_Tigah
Also the comment about the "magic bullet". This was disproved many times.
This is the conspiracy theorists contention of the "magic bullet".
This was the actual seating location of the President and the Governor.
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In 2004, the Discovery Channel aired an episode of Unsolved History titled JFK — Beyond the Magic Bullet.[74] Their re-enactment of the assassination using current forensics and materials found that a single bullet almost exactly duplicated the path of travel specified in the single bullet theory.[74]
Now the condition of the bullet is strange, i'll give you that. But the trajectory matches up 100% and indicates Oswald (or whoever was in the book depository for the theorists) was the shooter.
This post was edited on 10/27/17 at 8:14 am
Posted on 10/27/17 at 8:16 am to ThinePreparedAni
quote:Thank god we were told the truth by fake news and a benevolent government about 9/11 though.
In 1962 we were talking about building a plane with a Soviet exterior to attack our own citizens but anybody who suspects we might do it 50 years later is a conspiracy loon...
Thank god it was an isolated idea that was abandoned...
Whew, huh?
Posted on 10/27/17 at 8:18 am to antibarner
quote:Maybe he ran out on his tab during one of the many meetings at Ruby's bar in New Orleans?
The ONE thing I cannot believe is Jack Ruby just getting angry and taking out Oswald. I don't buy it.
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