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Posted on 9/20/25 at 2:47 pm to Perrin Aybara
quote:You'll "take" your laziness as my "surrender"?
Google is there for you. I just posted an article from 2019 discussing it. There were volumes of sociological materials published on the subject. Perhaps do some research
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I'll take that as your surrender.
Okie Dokie then.
quote:As I said, there are piles of these articles from the timeframe.
Put a Ring on It? Millennial Couples Are in No Hurry
Young adults not only marry and have children later than previous generations, they take more time to get to know each other before tying the knot.
By Roni Caryn Rabin
May 29, 2018
The millennial generation’s breezy approach to sexual intimacy helped give rise to apps like Tinder and made phrases like “hooking up” and “friends with benefits” part of the lexicon.
But when it comes to serious lifelong relationships, new research suggests, millennials proceed with caution.
Helen Fisher, an anthropologist who studies romance and a consultant to the dating site Match.com, has come up with the phrase “fast sex, slow love” to describe the juxtaposition of casual sexual liaisons and long-simmering committed relationships.
Young adults are not only marrying and having children later in life than previous generations, but taking more time to get to know each other before they tie the knot. Indeed, some spend the better part of a decade as friends or romantic partners before marrying, according to new research by eHarmony, another online dating site.
The eHarmony report on relationships found that American couples aged 25 to 34 knew each other for an average of six and a half years before marrying, compared with an average of five years for all other age groups.
The report was based on online interviews with 2,084 adults who were either married or in long-term relationships, and was conducted by Harris Interactive. The sample was demographically representative of the United States for age, gender and geographic region, though it was not nationally representative for other factors like income, so its findings are limited. But experts said the results accurately reflect the consistent trend toward later marriages documented by national census figures.
Julianne Simson, 24, and her boyfriend, Ian Donnelly, 25, are typical. They have been dating since they were in high school and have lived together in New York City since graduating from college, but are in no rush to get married.
Ms. Simson said she feels “too young” to be married. “I’m still figuring out so many things,” she said. “I’ll get married when my life is more in order.”
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Posted on 9/20/25 at 2:51 pm to NC_Tigah
Millennials have a lower divorce rate than Gen X and Boomers. It seems like you’re faulting millennials for marrying later but what good is owning a home at 25 if you have to sell it and start over after the divorce anyway?
Posted on 9/20/25 at 3:05 pm to Perrin Aybara
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I'll take that as your surrender.
You don’t have an answer?
Posted on 9/20/25 at 3:16 pm to 4cubbies
quote:You're ascribing motivation to simple observation?
It seems like you’re faulting millennials
I'm not "faulting" anyone. As far as I'm concerned, folks are free to do what they want to do. Insofar as the result of those decisions, good or bad, I just expect them to accept responsibility.
If couples want to cohabitate and take exotic vacay's for years, instead of settling down, buying a home, having kids, etc. I'm fine with that. Just don't claim there wasn't an alternative path.
If I choose not to take the Covid Vax, and I get Covid .... well .... you know ...
Posted on 9/20/25 at 3:21 pm to NC_Tigah
I am Gen X. Didn't feel very hopeful trying to pay off student loans on the wage scale 15-20 years ago in the 00s.
Posted on 9/20/25 at 3:24 pm to Doctor B
quote:What options, other than loans, did you pursue?
Didn't feel very hopeful trying to pay off student loans
Posted on 9/20/25 at 3:28 pm to NC_Tigah
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What options, other than loans, did you pursue?
One of my parents had cancer when I was in college. Had no other options besides working and taking out loans due to family medical bills.
So I worked and took out loans because the jobs an 18-year-old can get while in college don't cover everything.
Posted on 9/20/25 at 3:45 pm to Doctor B
quote:The reason I asked is because things like Military/ROTC scholys are often alternatives. Expense lowering options like 2yrs of CC followed by transfer to a University can also be beneficial.
So I worked and took out loans because the jobs an 18-year-old can get while in college don't cover everything.
Your family circumstances may have disallowed those. In no way specific to you, it's just interesting how readily college attendees simply accept going into massive debt, upto and including private school, coverage of Greek activities, etc. w/o considering other options.
Posted on 9/20/25 at 3:51 pm to NC_Tigah
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it's just interesting how readily college attendees simply accept going into massive debt, upto and including private school, coverage of Greek activities, etc. w/o considering other options.
Trust me, it amazes me when students do those things. I went to an in-state public university to lower costs as much as I could. But even that tuition, plus other basic housing, food and academic supplies expenses were tough at the time.
Posted on 9/20/25 at 3:54 pm to NC_Tigah
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cohabitate
Cohabit
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and take exotic vacay's for years, instead of settling down, buying a home, having kids, etc. I'm fine with that.
Do you have any data on the prevalence of unwed millennial renters taking exotic vacations? I’m a millennial and this never described anyone in my circles.
Posted on 9/20/25 at 4:13 pm to 4cubbies
quote:To cohabitate is to live or exist together, such as an unmarried couple sharing a household, or to dwell together in the same place.
cohabitate
Cohabit
quote:Odd question. I said it didn't matter if that was the case. You seem intent to argue Gen-Y was/is typically traditional in it's approach to marriage, family, home ownership. That simply is not the case. It may be the case in your situation. But if so, your situation is atypical.
Do you have any data on the prevalence of unwed millennial renters
Posted on 9/20/25 at 4:32 pm to NC_Tigah
Suzy needs to read Saul Alinsky, and Yuri Bezmenov, the unrelenting demoralization campaign is totally by design..and even from within these borders and Govt also.
This post was edited on 9/20/25 at 4:38 pm
Posted on 9/20/25 at 5:02 pm to NC_Tigah
Quit putting your hope in the wrong things.
Posted on 9/20/25 at 5:04 pm to Chrome
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Quit putting your hope in the wrong things.
Posted on 9/20/25 at 5:35 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Even in the face of objective data, they just ignore it and press repeat again.
There’s a lot wrong with your “objective data” and it’s been pointed out to you, but you ignore it and press repeat again.
I’m curious about your generations irrepressible need for victimhood. Why do you think it’s the case? It’s wild to observe.
Posted on 9/20/25 at 6:19 pm to NC_Tigah
Its like you're just ignoring the directive to take out student loans and go to college instead of immediately enter the workforce.
And people in the age group we've discussed have also faced two of the biggest economic downturns in decades.
That's why they got married later and can't afford houses.
And people in the age group we've discussed have also faced two of the biggest economic downturns in decades.
That's why they got married later and can't afford houses.
Posted on 9/20/25 at 6:21 pm to NC_Tigah
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The reason I asked is because things like Military/ROTC scholys are often alternatives.
There aren't enough ROTC scholarships to cover every single student, and military isn't a viable option either.
Posted on 9/21/25 at 3:35 am to NC_Tigah
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To cohabitate is to live or exist together, such as an unmarried couple sharing a household, or to dwell together in the same place.
“Cohabitate” is not a real word. The correct word is cohabit.
quote:not at all. You just know that the scenario you are trying to pass off as common (choosing to take exotic vacations in lieu of buying a house) is not common at all.
Odd question.
Posted on 9/21/25 at 5:05 am to 4cubbies
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“Cohabitate” is not a real word. The correct word is cohabit.
quote:So when the author says "Julianne Simson, 24, and her boyfriend, Ian Donnelly, 25, are typical. They have been dating since they were in high school and have lived together in New York City since graduating from college, but are in no rush to get married," she got it wrong? They weren't typical?
You just know that the scenario you are trying to pass off as common (choosing to take exotic vacations in lieu of buying a house) is not common at all.
When Laurie Goodman of the Urban Institute observes that in the past “You didn’t take a vacation for years to save for the down payment on your first home,” but GenY cast those old habits aside as they delayed home ownership and marriage for experiences, she's lying? When she said in 2019 that "Millennials are in less of a rush to get their hands on house keys," she was just making stuff up?
When surveys of thousands of Millennials demonstrated the same thing, were the participants gaslighting?
The fascinating thing is, these are not folks doing Monday morning quarterback analysis. These are contemporary observations made at a time homes were still affordable for first-time buyers. They were observations made of a generation who could have bought, but chose not to. They were contemporary observations made of a generation who could have settled down, but chose to put marriage off and .... wait4it .... cohabitate instead, as marriage was something for "old" people. They were observations made before the consequences of those decisions were fully apparent.
As I've said, the post-GreatRecession decade 2010-2020 was replete with bylines covering the same identical phenomenon. Granted, student loans, tightened credit, and pricepoint are noted contributors in many of those observations. But the overarching and common theme was the choice not to pursue home ownership and/or family, and instead go for social experiences.
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