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re: Gabby Giffords taken to a studio, told to talk to Congress about guns

Posted on 1/28/14 at 8:31 am to
Posted by Bard
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Member since Oct 2008
57977 posts
Posted on 1/28/14 at 8:31 am to
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Guns are drastically different now than they were in 1776. And the guys who wrote the Constitution couldn't possibly see the consequences industrialization would have on the gun.

Registration wouldn't take away your right to own a gun anyways.


Incrementalism
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
18928 posts
Posted on 1/28/14 at 8:32 am to
You are a special kind of stupid.
Posted by MrCarton
Paradise Valley, MT
Member since Dec 2009
20231 posts
Posted on 1/28/14 at 8:40 am to
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I've never understood the big fear of universal background checks.


I don't "fear" it. I just see it for what it really it. We have tried more extreme measures of gun control on foreign nations in the recent past. It didn't work even with the full might of the US military behind it. It won't achieve the surface level goal in America either. Only a fool or a devious politician would propagate that lie.
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
18928 posts
Posted on 1/28/14 at 9:22 am to
The Abramski case before SCOTUS now is highlighting how worthless the existing NICS is. Basically the Feds have argued that the current system was passed so that the end-buyer could be tracked through maintained FFL records. They then admitted that it is perfectly legal for a buyer to sell that gun private party which means that they really didn't intend to track the end-buyer and that the legislation was compromised from the beginning.
Posted by weagle99
Member since Nov 2011
35893 posts
Posted on 1/28/14 at 10:09 am to
One of the biggest reason anti-gun groups pushed for background checks is that it set a mental precedent that a person had to seek permission from the government to exercise the 2nd Amendment right.

The above was paraphrased from a member of Brady / HCI.
Posted by Alahunter
Member since Jan 2008
90742 posts
Posted on 1/28/14 at 10:34 am to
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"They make it harder for criminals and the mentally ill to get guns," she says


Maryland's 2013 Gun laws that went on the books:

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If you’re a would-be gun buyer, you can expect more stringent background checks. You will be obliged to submit a fingerprint and undergo gun safety training


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bans the sale of 45 specific types of assault weapons. In addition to these banned firearms, the law also prohibits Maryland residents to purchase any magazines with more than 10 rounds


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In addition to the background checks, there are also mental health provisions included in the law. For instance, those involuntarily committed to mental institutions are barred from owning any regulated firearm and even a shotgun or rifle.


Someone should ask her publicly, how that helped stop the Maryland mall shooting.
Posted by weagle99
Member since Nov 2011
35893 posts
Posted on 1/28/14 at 10:48 am to
Since she is a victim she is exempt from questioning.

At any rate she probably lacks the ability to answer.
This post was edited on 1/28/14 at 10:49 am
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
84893 posts
Posted on 1/28/14 at 10:49 am to
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Since she is a victim she is immune from questioning.

At any rate she probably lacks the ability to answer.
Like I said she is a sock puppet.
Posted by 4LSU2
Member since Dec 2009
37949 posts
Posted on 1/28/14 at 10:57 am to
Every politician that talks of "gun control" only talks about controlling guns by keeping them from the law abiding citizens. There has yet to be an open conversation by anyone on the left wanting to address the people committing the crimes. Funny how that works.
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
84893 posts
Posted on 1/28/14 at 11:02 am to
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Funny how that works.
Odd isn't it?
Posted by USMCTiger03
Member since Sep 2007
71176 posts
Posted on 1/28/14 at 11:29 am to
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Registration wouldn't take away your right to own a gun anyways.

Are you absofrickinglutely blind to the GOVT actions against lawful gun owners ALREADY going on in parts of the country?

Don't be such a dumbass.
Posted by son of arlo
State of Innocence
Member since Sep 2013
4577 posts
Posted on 1/28/14 at 11:33 am to
I wish universal gun registration was a plank in the DNC, and they would never stop talking about it.
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
83730 posts
Posted on 1/28/14 at 11:36 am to
Sad sad puppet for the left...

Posted by MagicCityBlazer
Member since Nov 2010
3686 posts
Posted on 1/28/14 at 12:27 pm to
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I've never understood the big fear of universal background checks.


Why don't we have background checks for everything from knives, silverware, drano, bleach and laundry detergent, otc mediction, food, and kitchen tools so we can "be safe".

Its one short step to confiscation after a registry is made.
Posted by MrCarton
Paradise Valley, MT
Member since Dec 2009
20231 posts
Posted on 1/28/14 at 1:10 pm to
quote:

The Abramski case before SCOTUS now is highlighting how worthless the existing NICS is. Basically the Feds have argued that the current system was passed so that the end-buyer could be tracked through maintained FFL records. They then admitted that it is perfectly legal for a buyer to sell that gun private party which means that they really didn't intend to track the end-buyer and that the legislation was compromised from the beginning.



Thanks for that info. Great post.
Posted by Mr.Perfect
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2013
17576 posts
Posted on 1/28/14 at 1:55 pm to
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I've never understood the big fear of universal background checks.


i never understood the fear of Voter ID laws
Posted by navy
Parts Unknown, LA
Member since Sep 2010
31510 posts
Posted on 1/28/14 at 1:58 pm to
I still can't believe we named a ship after this person.
Posted by Tigah in the ATL
Atlanta
Member since Feb 2005
27539 posts
Posted on 1/28/14 at 4:19 pm to
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But Democrats also say a person shouldn't have to have picture ID to vote.
no

Democrats say that Republicans shouldn't implement ID checks as a way to reduce D voters.
Posted by LSUMJ
BR
Member since Sep 2004
20634 posts
Posted on 1/28/14 at 4:28 pm to
Please
Posted by JuiceTerry
Roond the Scheme
Member since Apr 2013
40868 posts
Posted on 1/28/14 at 4:37 pm to
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Sad sad puppet for the left...


I'm no political scientist. So forgive me for asking a simple question. Is it your contention that this woman, who was blasted in the head by a maniac, doesn't really mean the things she says publicly nowadays about guns and their place in modern society? Poster child, yeah, but wouldn't puppet imply that she is just a mouthpiece? Wasn't James Brady genuinely affected by his near death?
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