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re: Gabbard Confirms US Funded Bio-labs in Ukraine

Posted on 12/31/25 at 12:13 pm to
Posted by AlterEd
Cydonia, Mars
Member since Dec 2024
3449 posts
Posted on 12/31/25 at 12:13 pm to
You are clueless.
Posted by beulahland
Little D'arbonne
Member since Jan 2013
3990 posts
Posted on 12/31/25 at 12:14 pm to
Not only that, but tailor made organisms that targeted the Slavic genome.
Why do you think Russia targeted the deep state biolabs first?
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
141609 posts
Posted on 12/31/25 at 12:14 pm to
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Do you guys member when this was written off as a conspiracy theory


Used to be a guy that posted here that called himself BoreEd that told us about this 4 years ago. Many people wrote him off.
He who laughs last………
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
467322 posts
Posted on 12/31/25 at 12:14 pm to
She is doing her Tulsi thing speaking without posting any evidence.

Also, the CTs alleged a lot more than "gain of function" to get labeled as CTs

When things like this were added, the story was labeled a CT

quote:

Russia Says It’s Losing Because Ukraine Has Experimental Mutant Troops Created in Secret Biolabs


quote:

Konstantin Kosachev, the deputy speaker of Russia’s Federation Council, and Irina Yarovaya, deputy chair of the State Duma, touted what they described as bombshell findings from the “investigation.”

Testing of Ukrainian POWs’ blood, they claimed, uncovered “a range of diseases” that suggest they were secretly experimented on “for military purposes.”

“And we see: the cruelty and barbarity with which the military personnel of Ukraine behave, the crimes that they commit against the civilian population, those monstrous crimes that they commit against prisoners of war, confirm that this system for the control and creation of a cruel murder machine was implemented under the management of the United States,” Yarovaya was quoted telling reporters.


Or this

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Russia has accused Ukraine and the US at the UN security council of a plot to use migratory birds and bats to spread pathogens, raising alarm among other council members that the accusations could be intended to provide cover for future Russian use of biological weapons.

The Russian permanent representative to the UN, Vasily Nebenzya, delivered a lengthy account of the alleged biological weapons plot, and said the birds, bats and insects supposedly intended to spread disease would cross Ukraine’s western border.

“We call upon you to think about a very real biological danger to the people in European countries, which can result from an uncontrolled spread of bio agents from Ukraine,” Nebenzya said. “And if there is a such a scenario then all Europe will be covered.

“The risk of this is very real given the interests of the radical nationalist groups in Ukraine are showing towards the work with dangerous pathogens conducted together with the ministry of defence of the United States.”


Let me know when Tulsi confirms the actual CTs like those
Posted by AlterEd
Cydonia, Mars
Member since Dec 2024
3449 posts
Posted on 12/31/25 at 12:15 pm to
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Not only that, but tailor made organisms that targeted the Slavic genome.


Exactly. And can you imagine the craziness of the Ukrainian government to allow that research to be conducted IN Ukraine?

These people are fricking psychopaths.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
467322 posts
Posted on 12/31/25 at 12:15 pm to
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Not only that, but tailor made organisms that targeted the Slavic genome.
Why do you think Russia targeted the deep state biolabs first?

Posted by Narax
Member since Jan 2023
6227 posts
Posted on 12/31/25 at 12:17 pm to
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You are clueless.

Dude...
I've worked in AI since 2019.

AIs dont have hidden information.

Once you start pushing back on their training sets they start putting attention in different places, eventually one of those will give you an answer you want.

Plus the big LLMs are designed to please.

Im not pushing back on Ukraine biolabs, just that a large language model can be argued into agreeing with any position.
Posted by AlterEd
Cydonia, Mars
Member since Dec 2024
3449 posts
Posted on 12/31/25 at 12:18 pm to
I don't remember anyone talking about frickin mutant troops. This is a strawman. Because of course it is.

If you scour the webs hard enough I'm sure you can find an example of them doing this in cahoots with space aliens. It doesn't mean that it was ever taken seriously.

Jesus you really are a blatantly dishonest frick stick.
Posted by mytigger
Member since Jan 2008
15294 posts
Posted on 12/31/25 at 12:20 pm to
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Is this like the proof of Obama treason she claimed she had 6mo ago


I mean, you would doubt this at this point???
Posted by AlterEd
Cydonia, Mars
Member since Dec 2024
3449 posts
Posted on 12/31/25 at 12:22 pm to
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Dude...
I've worked in AI since 2019.

AIs dont have hidden information.

Once you start pushing back on their training sets they start putting attention in different places, eventually one of those will give you an answer you want.

Plus the big LLMs are designed to please.

Im not pushing back on Ukraine biolabs, just that a large language model can be argued into agreeing with any position.


You obviously didn't follow the point being made. I asked Grok why ChatGPT denies the labs exist at all when there is documentation proving they do. It told me because it overcorrects by conflating the labs story with unproven conspiracy theories and therefore denies their existence all together.

When I said that Grok was trying to overcorrect as well that's because I asked Grok about the bio-labs and it immediately said no "bio weapons labs" exist. I had to correct it and remind it that I did not ask about bioweapons, but simply bio-labs. It acknowledged its mistake and corrected itself.

Of course they aren't going to confirm them funding bio weapons labs. No source confirms this. Although it is heavily implied when Gabbard says that their gain of function research has directly contributed to global health crises.
Posted by prplhze2000
Parts Unknown
Member since Jan 2007
57044 posts
Posted on 12/31/25 at 12:27 pm to
Again you dumb frick, he was one of the earlier ones writing about the lab leak. Now go suck Jerome Corsi's dick.
Posted by prplhze2000
Parts Unknown
Member since Jan 2007
57044 posts
Posted on 12/31/25 at 12:31 pm to
None of this was hidden.

state department

That's the treaty we signed in 2005.
Posted by OchoDedos
Republic of Texas
Member since Oct 2014
39503 posts
Posted on 12/31/25 at 12:32 pm to
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member when this was written off as a conspiracy theory,

They only people who wanted to make this some kind of conspiracy are the tin foil hat wearers. The US has Biolabs all over the planet, some are Military, and some are NHS and CDC. The Navy has facilities in Singapore, Cairo, and Lima, mostly operating as infectious disease labs, no doubt doing other things as well.
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
141609 posts
Posted on 12/31/25 at 12:37 pm to
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Jesus you really are a blatantly dishonest frick stick.


Not at all. My boy has a touch of the tism.


Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
467322 posts
Posted on 12/31/25 at 12:37 pm to
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I don't remember anyone talking about frickin mutant troops.


If you don't know what CTs are being referenced you should probably hold off on making a thread about them.

quote:

This is a strawman.

No

You don't know what that word means.

You are conflating real stories with CTs and claiming the CTs were proven when only the real stories were confirmed. It's dishonesty pure and simple.

quote:

If you scour the webs hard enough I'm sure you can find an example of them doing this in cahoots with space aliens. It doesn't mean that it was ever taken seriously.

You're now arguing against your own OP by claiming the CTs were not proven true. Thank you.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
467322 posts
Posted on 12/31/25 at 12:38 pm to
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None of this was hidden.

state department

That's the treaty we signed in 2005.


They are engaging in a bait and switch conflation.

It's the typical go to strategy when you see the "Conspiracy theories proven right" football spiking
Posted by Narax
Member since Jan 2023
6227 posts
Posted on 12/31/25 at 12:41 pm to
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You obviously didn't follow the point being made. I asked Grok why ChatGPT denies the labs exist at all when there is documentation proving they do. It told me because it overcorrects by conflating the labs story with unproven conspiracy theories and therefore denies their existence all together.

You should never trust their explainability.
They don't actually have a reference to how they came up with the previous answer.

Explainability is hard really hard, there are a number of ways its been tried, some require logging the similarity scores for the chosen and other potential answers.

Thats for more traditional forms like a bayes net or random forest.

For a transform based LLM there's no reasonable way to store attention information, or underlying datasets.

Its just offering you a reasonable explanation on what it could have been thinking.

I dont really care what topic its on, LLMs do not explain themselves, they just give you a story that could be true, but the LLM has no way to check where its attention was.
Posted by Placekicker
Florida
Member since Jan 2016
12452 posts
Posted on 12/31/25 at 12:42 pm to
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Again you dumb frick


Why are Liberals always so angry??
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
467322 posts
Posted on 12/31/25 at 12:50 pm to
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Why are Liberals always so angry??


quote:

to prplhze2000


Posted by LSU0358
Member since Jan 2005
8097 posts
Posted on 12/31/25 at 12:56 pm to
You guys lap up Russian propaganda pretty well...and the Russians aren't even that good at it any more.

Its very simple folks, the Russians don't feel secure historically unless they indirectly or directly control from Eastern Poland all the way down to Bucharest. To get that control they'll lie, cheat, steal, invade, etc.
This post was edited on 12/31/25 at 12:59 pm
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