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re: Future GOP Minority Rule and South Africa — is this the GOPS 30 year game plan ?
Posted on 4/18/20 at 7:42 am to BobbyLenMoore
Posted on 4/18/20 at 7:42 am to BobbyLenMoore
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Is it not far fetched to stay that “stacking the courts”, filing courts with any and every young conservative lawyer/Judge,
Sotamayor is the only hack in the stack. The only centrist SCJs in recent years were Roberts and Kennedy, both Republican appointments.
Posted on 4/18/20 at 7:44 am to BobbyLenMoore
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Around the country, the last 3 years, we’ve seen lifetime appointment afte life time appointment be filled with political hacks and down right bad lawyers and judges.
And on the other hand all of the Obama appointees were middle of the road bipartisan jurists.......
Posted on 4/18/20 at 7:59 am to BobbyLenMoore
GOP strategists, lobbiest, and leaders are smart
Since when?
It is inevitable that the GOPs base will be a demographic minority in 20 years.
Speculation
However they will retain largely 90-95% of the nations wealth/assets/land and political power by that time as well.
Speculation
Is it not far fetched to stay that “stacking the courts”
Correct. Any Judge appointed is always stacking the deck. Always!
filing courts with any and every young conservative lawyer/Judge, suppressing voter turnout
False, judges do not remove anyone's right to vote that is legally eligible, they only grant that right to people that don't legally have it.
Colluding with foreign adversaries to steal elections
Are you now talking about the dims?
filling state govts with gop stalwarts is a tactical decision they made a while ago?
Should they be filling the gov't with a party other than their own? Is that what dims do?
They know that they can’t win in a demographics race and that democracry by numbers would destroy republican rule in this country. The wouldn’t last one election?
Poor speculation
The will of this country is not the republican ideology
Yes it is and always has been.
And the future especially isn't.
Seems to be moving in that direction to me???
All those political maneuvers I listed above seem to be deliberate attempts to contain the nations governing powers within a dwindling majority group.
Stupid, you act as though no minorities vote republican.
My question though is — isn’t that a failing model? It is imploding in SA. The minority majority will soon lose all their power, if not just have it stripped from them.
I thought we were talking about the USA???
Around the country, the last 3 years, we’ve seen lifetime appointment afte life time appointment be filled with political hacks and down right bad lawyers and judges.
Negative, just people that use logic and aren't devil worshippers.
It is widely known within the legal circles that if u want to crack in govt law as a lawyer, the best route to go is conservative because the competition is less. Easier to get partner that way especially if you’re a WM or WF. I say this having close friends that work for top 3 firms in country.
Strange point???
Nothing has ever withstood the will of the people?
I though abortion was still legal?
Things have gotten so bad that they allowed foreign govts to invade and impregnate their party with disinformation and propaganda just to keep their base in line.
You talking about the dims again. Are you from China?
This consolidation of power might seem advantageous in the short term, but seems like wholly a horrible and ill thought out decision in the long run. It reeks of fear and arrogance, and stubbornness.
Your fear not ours!
Since when?
It is inevitable that the GOPs base will be a demographic minority in 20 years.
Speculation
However they will retain largely 90-95% of the nations wealth/assets/land and political power by that time as well.
Speculation
Is it not far fetched to stay that “stacking the courts”
Correct. Any Judge appointed is always stacking the deck. Always!
filing courts with any and every young conservative lawyer/Judge, suppressing voter turnout
False, judges do not remove anyone's right to vote that is legally eligible, they only grant that right to people that don't legally have it.
Colluding with foreign adversaries to steal elections
Are you now talking about the dims?
filling state govts with gop stalwarts is a tactical decision they made a while ago?
Should they be filling the gov't with a party other than their own? Is that what dims do?
They know that they can’t win in a demographics race and that democracry by numbers would destroy republican rule in this country. The wouldn’t last one election?
Poor speculation
The will of this country is not the republican ideology
Yes it is and always has been.
And the future especially isn't.
Seems to be moving in that direction to me???
All those political maneuvers I listed above seem to be deliberate attempts to contain the nations governing powers within a dwindling majority group.
Stupid, you act as though no minorities vote republican.
My question though is — isn’t that a failing model? It is imploding in SA. The minority majority will soon lose all their power, if not just have it stripped from them.
I thought we were talking about the USA???
Around the country, the last 3 years, we’ve seen lifetime appointment afte life time appointment be filled with political hacks and down right bad lawyers and judges.
Negative, just people that use logic and aren't devil worshippers.
It is widely known within the legal circles that if u want to crack in govt law as a lawyer, the best route to go is conservative because the competition is less. Easier to get partner that way especially if you’re a WM or WF. I say this having close friends that work for top 3 firms in country.
Strange point???
Nothing has ever withstood the will of the people?
I though abortion was still legal?
Things have gotten so bad that they allowed foreign govts to invade and impregnate their party with disinformation and propaganda just to keep their base in line.
You talking about the dims again. Are you from China?
This consolidation of power might seem advantageous in the short term, but seems like wholly a horrible and ill thought out decision in the long run. It reeks of fear and arrogance, and stubbornness.
Your fear not ours!
Posted on 4/18/20 at 8:05 am to omegaman66
quote:
It is inevitable that the GOPs base will be a demographic minority in 20 years.
quote:
Speculation
Yes, OP completely overlooks the possibility
that the GOP base could be a coalition
of several demographic minorities.
Posted on 4/18/20 at 8:10 am to TrueTiger
The country will be less white and more brown. The surprise will be how many browns will become conservatives.
Posted on 4/18/20 at 8:19 am to BobbyLenMoore
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Anyways how does the GOP truly think this plan is subject to stand the test of time? Nothing has ever withstood the will of the people? Things have gotten so bad that they allowed foreign govts to invade and impregnate their party with disinformation and propaganda just to keep their base in line.
Oh Lordt.
Posted on 4/18/20 at 8:25 am to BobbyLenMoore
Family first
Pro life
Religious
Hard working
Soon to be the largest group in Texas and Fastest growing ethnic group in the country
And overwhelmingly democratic.
The GOP has had many chances in the last 30 years but keeps getting hijacked by Fox News, AM radio nutjobs, and internet echo chambers.
Pro life
Religious
Hard working
Soon to be the largest group in Texas and Fastest growing ethnic group in the country
And overwhelmingly democratic.
The GOP has had many chances in the last 30 years but keeps getting hijacked by Fox News, AM radio nutjobs, and internet echo chambers.
Posted on 4/18/20 at 8:35 am to TejasHorn
Mexicans will continue to trend Republican, too religious and hard working to align with the Dems long term.
Posted on 4/18/20 at 8:44 am to Powerman
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WTF are you trying to tell me that Bezos, Gates, Buffet aren't GOP voters?
Those guys were huge Obama supporters and hate Trump.
Posted on 4/18/20 at 8:44 am to BobbyLenMoore
No, if anything conservatism might grown by leaps and bounds once the race dyanmic is removed. Every major youtube video I see of conservative AAs vs progressive AAs has comments siding with the conservative side most of the time.
GOP's problem is isht leadership and is refusal to practice small gov't.
GOP's problem is isht leadership and is refusal to practice small gov't.
Posted on 4/18/20 at 8:52 am to FearlessFreep
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In 1960 that “demographic minority” was 89% of the US population.
How do you think it would be possible for such an overwhelming majority to become a “demographic minority” in 80 years? What makes it “inevitable” now?
If you pay attention to the models, ethnic minorities as a whole will be more than the majority demographic in 20-30 years.
How does that happen?
Mix of woman’s rights, ultra individualism and obsession with self, robust economy, people living longer, and the increased secularism amongst the majority and you have less married people, more interracial couples, and less people feeling the cultural/societal/religious pressures to have a family (or a big family).
The enthusiasm minorities, who now comprise many of the church goers, still hold on the old beliefs that advise them to create more and have bigger families. They also come from more communal cultures were family and community is much stronger and emphasized . In a pure numbers race, the majority can’t keep up solely due to what I jsut mentioned. The last 60 years, in addition to mass migration from those countries, has shown that
This post was edited on 4/18/20 at 8:57 am
Posted on 4/18/20 at 9:00 am to Powerman
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The paradigm shift has to happen. The GOP has to adapt and attract different voters. It's clearly possible.
I 100% agree. There are some Very attractive aspects to conservatism, that I believe would attract many ethnic groups. Which would broaden its base and appeal. But current leadership is hell bent on curating it’s message to the lowest common denominator our country has to offer. Literally bottom of the barrel type of people. People y’all defend but would never associate with in your own personal lives
Posted on 4/18/20 at 9:02 am to cave canem
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The 1%'ers are not part of the GOP and if youy are that clueless the rest cant be worth reading.
The one percenters you see on TV may not be. But they only make up a smaller percentage of the 1%. The other nonseen 1%ers are the ones I’m concerned about.
Posted on 4/18/20 at 9:04 am to BobbyLenMoore
Lol anyone that thinks brown people or immigrants will ever vote for anything other than overwhelmingly communist are retarded. It's a pipe dream and always has been.
Posted on 4/18/20 at 9:05 am to BobbyLenMoore
Congratulations - you typed all that and we're all dumber for having read it.
Posted on 4/18/20 at 9:06 am to BobbyLenMoore
If there is one lesson we should take from the advanced African nations of Rhodesia, South Africa, Namibia, and Botswana, it's that universal suffrage is horseshite.
Voter suppression, to use your term, isn't an inherently bad thing.
Voter suppression, to use your term, isn't an inherently bad thing.
Posted on 4/18/20 at 9:07 am to BobbyLenMoore
quote:
Is it not far fetched to stay that “stacking the courts”, filing courts with any and every young conservative lawyer/Judge, suppressing voter turnout through gerrymandering and voter id laws, colluding with foreign adversaries to steal elections, and filling state govts with gop stalwarts is a tactical decision they made a while ago?
Posted on 4/18/20 at 9:07 am to TrueTiger
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we are starting to see how sustainable the tyranny of the majority will be in SA.
be care what you wish for
Perhaps people shouldn’t steal land and resources and then think that’s its “rightfully” theirs forever. What was reaped May sow there.
The idea that native South Africans would just lay down and not politically fight for what was inheritable there is somewhere between Crazy God complex and bat shite insane
Posted on 4/18/20 at 9:09 am to ynlvr
Roberts is no centrist. He goes along party lines 99% of the time. The only time I can recall him not doing so was when the ACA was upheld.
Posted on 4/18/20 at 9:09 am to BobbyLenMoore
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The one percenters you see on TV may not be. But they only make up a smaller percentage of the 1%. The other nonseen 1%ers are the ones I’m concerned about.
The 1% are overwhelmingly far left progressives and crony capitalists, wall street is 99% far left, corporate boards are 99% far left, actors , athletes, Hollywood, entertainment etc.
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