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re: "Fruit of Islam" coming to Troy rally against police brutality tomorrow (P 25)
Posted on 12/29/17 at 7:39 am to Papplesbeast
Posted on 12/29/17 at 7:39 am to Papplesbeast
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The problem isn't that these things happen. It is impossible to eliminate all "accidents". The problem is that there are no consequences when they do happen,
Thats a good point if true. I'm not sure that there are "no consequences" when they do. Zero consequences would have to mean nothing happens..no reprimands..no investigation..no change in job status or duties, etc. I don't believe this is the case.
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An acceptable number is zero.
This is an impossible standard. Any punishment should be in line with the severity of the violation and the circumstances involved.
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Sure it does.
All reasonable people know that driving drunk is dangerous and puts the lives of other people at risk. Driving drunk is not an "accident", it is reckless behavior.
All reasonable people also know that firing a weapon at a mobile home is likely to injure or kill its occupants. Firing a weapon at a mobile home is not an "accident", it is reckless behavior.
No..it actually doesn't.
A police officer firing at a criminal and accidentally hitting the structure behind the criminal, is in no way comparable to a person who chooses to endanger anyone in their path by driving drunk.
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Posted on 12/29/17 at 7:41 am to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
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.but one day we allowed cops to be murderers and call it part of their jo
This is just a dumb comment. Just my opinion, others may feel differently.
Posted on 12/29/17 at 7:48 am to MrLarson
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You don't know either. Your assumption has no more validity than mine.
How so? No one has to prove a negative.
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Found a gun on the path he ran?
Uh Huh..but that doesn't answer the question I asked.."Why did he run?"
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This kid got the frick beat out of him in small town Alabama.
Could be. Still looks like a lot could be the result of hitting the concrete during a fast run and being tackled. I'm holding out for the actual investigation to produce evidence of what you--jump to the conclusion--to be fact.
Seems to be the only reasonable view to hold at this point. just my opinion...others may feel differently.
Posted on 12/29/17 at 7:51 am to MrLarson
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Yep, on both sides.
Actually, this is not true. One "side" is claiming they know what happened and it's the fascist police's fault again. The other "side" is saying the facts are not known and that"racist cop" shtick may in fact be bullshite.
Posted on 12/29/17 at 7:54 am to bmy
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Accidents happen.. but brutality or excessive force is not really an accident.
What are you basing the claim that it was brutal or excessive, on? A picture?
Posted on 12/29/17 at 7:56 am to Wolfhound45
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That looks as “accidental” as what happened to Reginald Denny. Disgusting.
How are they comparable??? There is complete visual footage of what happened to Deny. You're really reaching imo.
Posted on 12/29/17 at 7:58 am to Dale51
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One "side" is claiming they know what happened and it's the fascist police's fault again.
Not really.
I am only claiming to know one fact. The 17 year old got the frick beat out of him.
Everything else is speculation by everyone. Myself included. I just don't like the optics coming from Troy PD.
Posted on 12/29/17 at 8:03 am to MrLarson
Have more small government conservatives chimes in about how they enjoy the cops breaking the law?
Posted on 12/29/17 at 8:04 am to MrLarson
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I am only claiming to know one fact. The 17 year old got the frick beat out of him.
Fair enough..but doesn't actually seem all that accurate. Hand in glove with the 17 year old getting..possible beat up..possibly injured in a running tackle and face meeting concrete..likely a combination of both, is the belief that the cops "beat him up". The evidence has yet to be provided.
Posted on 12/29/17 at 8:10 am to NIH
It is now going to blow up
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TROY, AL (WSFA) - The family at the center of a state investigation into the Troy Police Department's alleged police brutality of their 17-year-old relative has hired legal counsel and is preparing to speak publicly.
The boy, Ulysses KeAndre Wilkerson, had not been identified by law enforcement, but his family chose to release his name Thursday in a statement announcing their hiring of attorneys.
Wilkerson's mother, Angela Williams, will deliver a statement Friday at 9 a.m. at St. Paul's AME Church in Brundidge. WSFA 12 News will be there and will stream this statement on WSFA.com and our news app.
Mobile users can click this link to watch
Attorneys with Ben Crump Law, as well as Buntin, Etheredge & Fowler issued a joint statement:
Posted on 12/29/17 at 8:11 am to NIH
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Have more small government conservatives chimes in about how they enjoy the cops breaking the law?
What law was broken? I haven't followed this case, in part, because, at this point, little is known as to what happened that led up to those consequences.
Posted on 12/29/17 at 8:14 am to MrLarson
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Attorneys with Ben Crump Law,
Are those the "Hands up..don't shoot" and "Trayvon was a victim" lawyers?...you know..the race baiting money grubbers?
Posted on 12/29/17 at 8:17 am to Dale51
The same exact ones
Posted on 12/29/17 at 8:18 am to Dale51
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This is an impossible standard.
Is it though? If we keep accepting it's an impossible standard we will never get there. Construction companies used to write off deaths as just accidents happening. Now it's exceedingly rare and isn't accepted as shite happening anymore. Real change has taken place in that industry. What is stopping it from happening in the police force.
Posted on 12/29/17 at 8:21 am to Dale51
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What law was broken?
Isn't battery and assault illegal in Alabama. I don't remember any law stating. Unless the cops do it.
Posted on 12/29/17 at 8:38 am to mindbreaker
Cops are above the law
Posted on 12/29/17 at 8:51 am to mindbreaker
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Isn't battery and assault illegal in Alabama.
How does that apply to this situation? The.facts.are. not.known.at.this.time.
Posted on 12/29/17 at 8:52 am to mindbreaker
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Isn't battery and assault illegal in Alabama.
I'm sure it is.
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Unless the cops do it.
Do you know for a fact they did?
Posted on 12/29/17 at 8:56 am to mindbreaker
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Is it though? If we keep accepting it's an impossible standard we will never get there
Acceptance is a mental construct. Reality does not unfold based on mental constructs. Life comes at you fast.
Posted on 12/29/17 at 9:05 am to Dale51
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No..it actually doesn't. A police officer firing at a criminal and accidentally hitting the structure behind the criminal, is in no way comparable to a person who chooses to endanger anyone in their path by driving drunk.
He choose to fire knowing he could possibly hit the mobile home, endangering anyone in the home, it is exactly comparable.
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