- My Forums
- Tiger Rant
- LSU Recruiting
- SEC Rant
- Saints Talk
- Pelicans Talk
- More Sports Board
- Fantasy Sports
- Golf Board
- Soccer Board
- O-T Lounge
- Tech Board
- Home/Garden Board
- Outdoor Board
- Health/Fitness Board
- Movie/TV Board
- Book Board
- Music Board
- Political Talk
- Money Talk
- Fark Board
- Gaming Board
- Travel Board
- Food/Drink Board
- Ticket Exchange
- TD Help Board
Customize My Forums- View All Forums
- Show Left Links
- Topic Sort Options
- Trending Topics
- Recent Topics
- Active Topics
Started By
Message
re: From “no way”, to now “likely” by the MSM that mRNA vaccine is causing heart inflammation.
Posted on 11/8/21 at 10:18 am to MMauler
Posted on 11/8/21 at 10:18 am to MMauler
quote:
You might want to get a second opinion on that.
Everything I've read said that the heart damage done by the "vaccines" is permanent and irreversible.
Myocarditis is irreversible? What are the other irreversible changes?
1
Posted on 11/8/21 at 11:04 am to the808bass
quote:
Even if you assume a risk of death at the same rate as the first infection (which seems very foolish), your overall risk would be a rounding error.
Exactly.
It's odd how inconsequential having a chemical injected into your body is for so many - and by your f'n government, no less. It's like their default position is "yeah, gov't says to do it, so let me have it."
They start at, "why shouldn't I take it?" rather than the more rational, "why should I?"
Posted on 11/8/21 at 12:04 pm to David_DJS
quote:. Vaxx deaths in UK study
They start at, "why shouldn't I take it?" rather than the more rational, "why should I?"
quote:
The UK Medicine Regulator has responded to a Freedom of Information request demanding to know how many deaths have occurred in the past 20 years due to all vaccines, and their response has revealed that there have been over four times as many deaths in just ten months due to the Covid-19 injections.
Posted on 11/8/21 at 12:26 pm to JawjaTigah
quote:
Therefore, up to the 28th October 2021 there have been a grand total of 1,739 deaths reported to the MHRA as adverse reactions to all available Covid-19 vaccines in the United Kingdom since the beginning of the year.
Wild.
That’s with 106M vaccine doses.
The US has administered 531M vaccine doses.
This post was edited on 11/8/21 at 12:30 pm
Posted on 11/8/21 at 12:35 pm to JawjaTigah
quote:
The UK Medicine Regulator has responded to a Freedom of Information request demanding to know how many deaths have occurred in the past 20 years due to all vaccines, and their response has revealed that there have been over four times as many deaths in just ten months due to the Covid-19 injections.
Why is it only listing vascular disorders?
Posted on 11/8/21 at 1:28 pm to crazy4lsu
quote:
Myocarditis is irreversible? What are the other irreversible changes?
I'm pretty sure myocarditis and pericarditis are reversible, but the damage they cause is not.
Posted on 11/8/21 at 1:28 pm to Vacherie Saint
quote:
I hate this dumbass talking point.
Over react much? It’s not a talking point. I just asked a question because I don’t know. I’ve never looked into it.
Posted on 11/8/21 at 1:42 pm to GumboPot
They are developing a conscience?
No way, they just can no longer deny the Truth !
No way, they just can no longer deny the Truth !
Posted on 11/9/21 at 9:54 am to GeorgeTheGreek
quote:FINALLY, HUH? YA POS
Either way, that’s really concerning.
Posted on 11/9/21 at 11:27 am to GeorgeTheGreek
quote:
. I just asked a question because I don’t know. I’ve never looked into it.
Ignorance is no excuse.
Posted on 11/9/21 at 6:36 pm to Warfox
Im still not vaxx'd. About to start a new job that requires it. I am really torn and conflicted
Posted on 11/9/21 at 6:42 pm to LakeCharles
quote:
I'm pretty sure myocarditis and pericarditis are reversible, but the damage they cause is not.
Like what? Describe the injury patterns for me on the cellular level.
Posted on 11/9/21 at 6:43 pm to GumboPot
I personally know 3 people who have had complications shortly after getting jabbed. 2 after their 3rd (one heart attack, one stroke), 1 after their 2nd (heart attack).
It's weird for a "rare" phenomenon.
It's weird for a "rare" phenomenon.
Posted on 11/9/21 at 6:52 pm to crazy4lsu
quote:
Yes, COVID can cause myocarditis. Lots of viral infections can cause myocarditis. The classic association is Coxsackie B causing myocarditis in a parent with a very young child who was recently sick. The estimates range from 5 to up to 10 percent of viral infections cause myocarditis, but we don't have a noninvasive diagnostic test. It's likely underreported. That said, this isn't the first time a vaccination has been associated with myocarditis. Smallpox vaccinations had a rate of myocarditis that was around 1:200. It's an incredibly common sequalae of immune process.
I agree with you. But then why are they saying researchers don’t know why it’s causing myocarditis? Seems like they could just offer your explanation.
It makes me think we aren’t hearing the entire story like most other issues over the past few years
Posted on 11/9/21 at 6:59 pm to crazy4lsu
quote:
Like what? Describe the injury patterns for me on the cellular level.
For starters, cellular necrosis to the pathways responsible for electrical conduction (I.e. SA node) causing a fatal or non fatal arrhythmia. I know you know this but heart cells can’t regenerate or divide.
I’m not saying this is what happens but you asked for an explanation for how it could happen
Posted on 11/9/21 at 7:09 pm to WaWaWeeWa
quote:
I agree with you. But then why are they saying researchers don’t know why it’s causing myocarditis? Seems like they could just offer your explanation.
I would have to see what the researchers are saying, because the mechanism of cellular injury is meaningful. Is it autoantibodies or HLA antigen mediated? I could even see a nutritional link. Also one theory of post-viral myocarditis relates to the presence of antibodies against Coxsackie Bin younger patients. If there is enough overlap between the COVID spike protein, and proteins on other coronavirus species, that also might explain why you see myocardial inflammation.
This post was edited on 11/9/21 at 7:17 pm
Posted on 11/9/21 at 7:14 pm to WaWaWeeWa
quote:
For starters, cellular necrosis to the pathways responsible for electrical conduction (I.e. SA node) causing a fatal or non fatal arrhythmia. I know you know this but heart cells can’t regenerate or divide. I’m not saying this is what happens but you asked for an explanation for how it could happen
I’m well aware. But most cases of myocarditis don’t progress that far, and I have seen scant evidence that every case of myocarditis is causing irreversible cellular injury. Most are self-limited without overt sequelae.
Posted on 11/9/21 at 7:28 pm to crazy4lsu
quote:
I’m well aware. But most cases of myocarditis don’t progress that far, and I have seen scant evidence that every case of myocarditis is causing irreversible cellular injury. Most are self-limited without overt sequelae.
So I guess I’m confused.
You are acknowledging that some cases of myocarditis cause permanent damage. You are acknowledging a possible pathway to poor outcomes from myocarditis. The left wing media is saying they don’t know why it’s happening.
Yet you are in here looking down your nose at everyone
If I’ve learned anything over the past year it’s this… whatever The MSM says is going on it’s usually way worse.
If they say there are absolutely no side effects, there are probably some side effects
If they say they don’t know what’s going on…. You better prepare your anus
That’s if history is any guide
Posted on 11/9/21 at 7:30 pm to crazy4lsu
I am vaxxed, and I agree with the post above about how it’s a risk-reward analysis that only an individual should be asked to make, especially since the mRNA vaccines are obviously horrible at stopping the spread. But I wanted to chime in and say that, as a guy who has run 14 marathons and takes his cardio health very seriously (mostly), I wouldn’t trust a doctor any farther than I could throw him if he tried to tell me that inflammation around my heart was nothing to worry about. With all due respect, doctors rarely take the long view, and if a patient seems to have recovered from an acute condition within a short period of time, they tend to think “all is good.” Like a mechanic watching a car successfully drive off the lot. But this is my body, and it’s the only one I’ll ever have. If medicine was any good at promoting heart health, heart disease wouldn’t the killer that it is.
Posted on 11/9/21 at 7:55 pm to Jake88
13 with some heavy playing months left. Also stadiums have invested in being better prepared for this. The deaths should be trending down, not up.
Page 4 of 4
Popular
Back to top
Follow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News