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re: Frick Park bridge collapse in Pittsburgh.

Posted on 1/28/22 at 9:41 am to
Posted by themunch
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Posted on 1/28/22 at 9:41 am to
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This is why we need to get rid of bridge weight restrictions!!!!!!
Posted by real turf fan
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Posted on 1/28/22 at 9:42 am to
Here's a before shot of the bridge in summer

Within the past five years Tennessee rebuilt two similar bridges in east Tennessee, one in downtown Knoxville, the other out near Hot Springs NC.
Posted by themunch
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Posted on 1/28/22 at 9:50 am to
must be them sneaky nano termites.
Posted by GumboPot
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Posted on 1/28/22 at 10:06 am to
I hope an engineering forensic investigation is done on this bridge. Need to gain some valuable lessons here.

Speaking of forensic investigation, this reminds me of the 17th Street Canal breech on the New Orleans side of the canal that flooded New Orleans during Katrina. The Jefferson Parish side of the canal was fine. No breech and no flooding. Come to find out the sheet piles on the NOLA side were shorter. The engineering company specified the same depth on both sides of the canal. I highly suspect what happened was the contractor was shaken down by corrupt NOLA politicians so the cost of corruption was just taken out of the sheet pile length on the NOLA side. Money has to come from somewhere.
Posted by RolltidePA
North Carolina
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 1/28/22 at 10:50 am to
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Who named this shite, Joe Biden? Stupid son of a bitch




It's literally a dog park and it's just called Hot Dog Dam, no one uses dog park in the name. It has a creek with a dam that you can let your dog play in off-leash.

Henry Clay Frick was a real bastard, but Frick park is a pretty fantastic place.
This post was edited on 1/28/22 at 10:53 am
Posted by RolltidePA
North Carolina
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Posted on 1/28/22 at 10:55 am to
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There was a tiny bridge over a creek that I would sometimes take as an alternate route to work and they had that closed for reconstruction for a little over 2 years.


Is that the one that went down into the Southside, behind the stadium coming down from Mt. Washington? They had that what has to be 100 yard bridge closed for what seemed like years.
This post was edited on 1/28/22 at 10:59 am
Posted by greygoose
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Posted on 1/28/22 at 11:01 am to
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Good thing Mayor Pete is incharge
Is he still on paternity leave with his husband?
Posted by Bama Bird
Pittsburgh, PA
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Posted on 1/28/22 at 11:04 am to
Wrong bridge. That's the I-376 bridge

Posted by RolltidePA
North Carolina
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Posted on 1/28/22 at 11:10 am to
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Wrong bridge. That's the I-376 bridge



Yeah, his pic is of the Commercial Street Bridge on I376 right before the Squirrel Hill Tunnel.

I don't know how the Panther Hollow Bridge hasn't fallen yet. It's been in rough shape for years.
Posted by LB84
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Posted on 1/28/22 at 11:19 am to
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Is that the one that went down into the Southside, behind the stadium coming down from Mt. Washington? They had that what has to be 100 yard bridge closed for what seemed like years.


The one I'm talking about you take the Carnegie exit on I-79 north and make a right off it. You go over a little bridge, I looked it up and the little creek is called Robinson Run
Posted by RolltidePA
North Carolina
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Posted on 1/28/22 at 11:37 am to
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The one I'm talking about you take the Carnegie exit on I-79 north and make a right off it. You go over a little bridge, I looked it up and the little creek is called Robinson Run



Oh yeah, the exit that drops you on Main St. at the back end of Carnegie. I have a good friend whos family owns Flooring shop that's been in Downtown Carnegie for years.
Posted by CelticDog
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Posted on 1/28/22 at 11:45 am to
did gop oppose addressing bridge maintenance because its union work.

whos against infrastructure repair replace?

the traditional td infrastructure negativity makes no sense.
Posted by RolltidePA
North Carolina
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Posted on 1/28/22 at 11:58 am to
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did gop oppose addressing bridge maintenance because its union work.

whos against infrastructure repair replace?

the traditional td infrastructure negativity makes no sense.



You have no idea how Pennsylvania works. There's money there that has been approved by the State for this exact thing.

This is local negligence and most likely the inspector who approved this structure as safe was a government contractor who got the job from a friend. They probably got paid and never did the work. This stuff is typical there and exactly what you get with 100 years of democrats running the show in that city. Pure negligence.
Posted by SG_Geaux
Beautiful St George, LA
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 1/28/22 at 12:01 pm to
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Just hours before President Joe Biden’s scheduled speech in Pittsburgh about the historic $1.2 trillion infrastructure plan, Pittsburgh Mayor Ed Gainey said the bridge over Hot Dog Dam Dog Park was inspected just last September.



Posted by ImaObserver
Member since Aug 2019
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Posted on 1/28/22 at 12:33 pm to
Posted elsewhere by:
JustMyOwnOpinion
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There’s a tweet from 29 Dec 2018 from user @gpk320 to @Pgh311: “I hope someone is keeping an eye on the underside of the Forbes Avenue bridge over Frick Park? One of the big “X” beams is rusted through entirely…”
So, they’ve known about it for THREE YEARS and did NOTHING!


January 28, 2022 11:44 am
This post was edited on 1/28/22 at 12:39 pm
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
40972 posts
Posted on 1/28/22 at 1:20 pm to
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Speaking of forensic investigation, this reminds me of the 17th Street Canal breech on the New Orleans side of the canal that flooded New Orleans during Katrina. The Jefferson Parish side of the canal was fine. No breech and no flooding. Come to find out the sheet piles on the NOLA side were shorter. The engineering company specified the same depth on both sides of the canal. I highly suspect what happened was the contractor was shaken down by corrupt NOLA politicians so the cost of corruption was just taken out of the sheet pile length on the NOLA side. Money has to come from somewhere.



After Katrina they went and pulled some piles from both sides. They were the same length and to spec.

So your "story" was proven bogus many years ago.
This post was edited on 1/28/22 at 1:21 pm
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 1/28/22 at 1:25 pm to
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was inspected just last September.


Obviously they missed something.

i pulled the inspection data and there were 4 condition state 4's which is critical. 1 CS4 should shut a bridge down until there is an emergency engineering evaluation. So it looks like this is an up the chain issue.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
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Posted on 1/28/22 at 1:25 pm to
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That's what makes it odd. Only has average traffic for the city of Pittsburgh, it's an artery to avoid tunnels. Built in 1970 so isn't super old. Collapsed early on a friday before 7 am. All injuries were minor. Inspected just this past September. The biggest being the President* making a speech about his infrastructure bill that is filled with pork the same day in the city this happened. Just seems extremely fishy.



I don't think they bombed the bridge.

I do think the inspection a few months ago is now totally suspect. Did they actually inspect it or did they hire the NOLA building inspectors to do it?

Also... what's with this gas line? Was it on underside of bridge or under ground? Any change the gas line exploded first taking out the bridge?
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
40972 posts
Posted on 1/28/22 at 1:26 pm to
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i pulled the inspection data and there were 4 condition state 4's which is critical. 1 CS4 should shut a bridge down until there is an emergency engineering evaluation. So it looks like this is an up the chain issue.



Uh oh
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
58504 posts
Posted on 1/28/22 at 1:42 pm to
that is not the right bridge. Thats the I376 bridge. The one that fell is Forbes Ave.
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