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Free college
Posted on 4/3/19 at 7:26 pm
Posted on 4/3/19 at 7:26 pm
Put aside the fact that it’s not free and someone is paying for it etc.
My biggest thing that is never brought up is, people with degrees earn more money. That is a fact. But they earn more money bc a college degree sets someone apart as an applicant for a job. If everyone has a college degree than what is the worth of that degree? You basically are watering down everyone else with a college degree which wouldn’t mean shite at that point. Who gets richer?
The universities and for what a degree that wouldn’t be worth the paper it is written on. More debt for everyone. Sounds like a great idea
My biggest thing that is never brought up is, people with degrees earn more money. That is a fact. But they earn more money bc a college degree sets someone apart as an applicant for a job. If everyone has a college degree than what is the worth of that degree? You basically are watering down everyone else with a college degree which wouldn’t mean shite at that point. Who gets richer?
The universities and for what a degree that wouldn’t be worth the paper it is written on. More debt for everyone. Sounds like a great idea
This post was edited on 4/3/19 at 7:33 pm
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Posted on 4/3/19 at 7:28 pm to SaintNation
I'd be ok with WIDELY increasing Pell Grant opportunities and relaxing the standards in exchange for drastic tuition cuts or ROI based tuition.
Posted on 4/3/19 at 7:28 pm to SaintNation
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people with relevant/useful degrees make more money
FIFY
I don't agree with paying for betas and their Sociology of Basket Weaving degrees.
Posted on 4/3/19 at 7:29 pm to SaintNation
quote:From the control of the radical left
Free college
Posted on 4/3/19 at 7:30 pm to SaintNation
I like Tucker Carlson’s suggestion from last nite. (Private) Universities take responsibility for charging six figures for a degree by co-signing student loans. p
You think a gender studies degree is worth six figures Yale Admin? Put your money where your mouth is.
You think a gender studies degree is worth six figures Yale Admin? Put your money where your mouth is.
Posted on 4/3/19 at 7:31 pm to Ollieoxenfree99
100% agree. The bullshite degrees are literally stealing from people.
Posted on 4/3/19 at 7:34 pm to timdonaghyswhistle
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I'd be ok with WIDELY increasing Pell Grant opportunities and relaxing the standards in exchange for drastic tuition cuts or ROI based tuition.
This is the plan that Republicans need to get behind.
Increase the max Pell Grant to $8000 for freshmen and sophomores and $12000 for juniors and seniors. Max of four years. No more than 12 hours withdrawn or F.
Create two levels of grant accepting institutions. Level I has a reported average salary of more than 150% of the average in the state where they are located. Level II is under.
Level II institutions are simply not Pell eligible.
Posted on 4/3/19 at 7:34 pm to timdonaghyswhistle
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I’d be ok with WIDELY increasing Pell Grant opportunities
frick that, you think that money is just gonna fall from the fricking sky?
Posted on 4/3/19 at 7:36 pm to Uncle Don
I'd rather my tax dollars go to that than 75% of what they actually go to.
Posted on 4/3/19 at 7:41 pm to SaintNation
Even if college was completely free for everyone, easily 50% of those that would go to college would be better off going to trade school.
Posted on 4/3/19 at 7:43 pm to anc
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Level II institutions are simply not Pell eligible.
Exactly. We've been making the mistake of letting 18 year olds make decisions with tens of thousands of dollars. Some adults need to take control and offer common sense options with viable outcomes. If you can afford that 210k English degree from Brandeis, good for you. If not, it's not my problem to get it for you.
Posted on 4/3/19 at 7:57 pm to SaintNation
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Put aside the fact that it’s not free and someone is paying for it etc.
I mean it's the same for elementary school, middle school, high school, etc.. It's daycare where kids learn a little, and are probably brainwashed along the way. Either abolish the Department of Education or give incentive to make better grades in high school. You front the bill w/loans through your basics (or a year of trade school), and if you hit a passing GPA without academic academic suspension and declare a major, we can foot the bill for the final two through undergrad (or final year of trade).
I think that is common ground that might satisfy those wanting "free" college and give enough incentive to not piss away your freshman/sophomore years.
This post was edited on 4/3/19 at 7:59 pm
Posted on 4/3/19 at 8:01 pm to SaintNation
Well Louisiana implemented TOPS and our cost of college hasn't increased at a rate higher than the national average or anything so frick it why not?
Posted on 4/3/19 at 8:05 pm to SaintNation
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If everyone has a college degree than what is the worth of that degree?
First you just needed a high school diploma. Then a college degree. Currently it's a masters degree. Before my kids are grown it will be a doctorate I'm sure.
Posted on 4/3/19 at 8:07 pm to Uncle Don
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frick that, you think that money is just gonna fall from the fricking sky?
No silly. It grows on the money tree on the unicorn farm. Jeez.
Don’t you have Google? (That’s What the
Leftists say when they have no rational argument. Well that and 97 percent of scientists agree)
Posted on 4/3/19 at 8:08 pm to SaintNation
70% of my daughter's tuition is covered by scholarships, and still, the cost is enormous.
Posted on 4/3/19 at 8:09 pm to SaintNation
you'll be amazed how expensive college becomes, once it is free
Posted on 4/3/19 at 8:09 pm to Nguyener
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First you just needed a high school diploma. Then a college degree. Currently it's a masters degree. Before my kids are grown it will be a doctorate I'm sure.
Posted on 4/3/19 at 8:13 pm to SaintNation
1. Stop the scam of federally secured college loans altogether.
2. Start tracking students like a motherfricker around age 10.
3. Prepare a work-readiness curriculum on a state level that partners with local employers to give average and below average students OTJ experience in a variety of fields: retail, sales, trades, etc with a goal of 100% first time job placement by age 18 (ideally with 1-2 years experience already).
4. Outlaw the ability of employers to require a college diploma for any specific position. Ideally by federal statute, but if a Constitutional Amendment is necessary, so be it.
2. Start tracking students like a motherfricker around age 10.
3. Prepare a work-readiness curriculum on a state level that partners with local employers to give average and below average students OTJ experience in a variety of fields: retail, sales, trades, etc with a goal of 100% first time job placement by age 18 (ideally with 1-2 years experience already).
4. Outlaw the ability of employers to require a college diploma for any specific position. Ideally by federal statute, but if a Constitutional Amendment is necessary, so be it.
Posted on 4/3/19 at 8:16 pm to Muthsera
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Start tracking students like a motherfricker around age 10.
They'll frick that up terribly. They already spend all their time prepping students to pass standardized tests instead of teaching them shite they can actually use in life.
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