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re: Fox alert: Trump signs proclamation sending troops to guard border with Mexico
Posted on 4/4/18 at 4:12 pm to Ace Midnight
Posted on 4/4/18 at 4:12 pm to Ace Midnight
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you're still under the authority of your TAG and governor.
Title 32, cant wait to see what the arming order looks like
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Posted on 4/4/18 at 4:15 pm to Lakeboy7
quote:You JAGs have fun with that shite. Everytime I get one of your RUF briefs with my guys I always just pull them to the side and dumb it down for Joe.
Title 32, cant wait to see what the arming order looks like
“Don’t be a fricking a-hole and shoot people unless they need shooting. And you’re more than likely too stupid to know whether or not they need shooting so ask me first.”
Posted on 4/4/18 at 4:18 pm to bamarep
Worlds largest game of red rover
Posted on 4/4/18 at 4:24 pm to bamarep
Posted on 4/4/18 at 4:26 pm to StraightCashHomey21
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Can't wait for my Operation Protect Our Borders campaign medal
Can’t wait to evaluate the PTSD claims from our soldiers having to be around so many illegals.
Posted on 4/4/18 at 4:28 pm to ChewyDante
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Can’t Cross This!
Posted on 4/4/18 at 4:30 pm to Ace Midnight
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We had all that same stuff for Katrina, baw. That's why Honore was there - he was the "President's General" and Landreneau was "Blanco's General." The NG troops from all over were under Louisiana operational control. Federal resources answered to Honore.
I don't believe that's correct. I believe that if the NG is under national command the states are out of the loop.
Posted on 4/4/18 at 4:39 pm to HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
The Catch and Release program is what Trump has been complaining about recently. They are arrested, given a court date, and let go in the US, never to be seen again.
I do remember reading about the ones turned away (and counted as returns by Obama) so I'm not sure why the difference. I will have to look into it some more.
I do remember reading about the ones turned away (and counted as returns by Obama) so I'm not sure why the difference. I will have to look into it some more.
Posted on 4/4/18 at 4:42 pm to HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
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I don't believe that's correct.
Don't believe it, then. I was there.
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I believe that if the NG is under national command the states are out of the loop.
For Katrina, the NG wasn't under "national" command - they all signed cooperative agreements(the Governors, I mean) - it was a big, big mess to avoid martial law and a unified, national control.
Now, the 82nd Airborne did come in. They were armed. There was no declaration of martial law. I have no idea what would have happened if they had shot someone. They were under Honore's command.
Posted on 4/4/18 at 4:42 pm to skeeter531
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The Catch and Release program is what Trump has been complaining about recently. They are arrested, given a court date, and let go in the US, never to be seen again.
I do remember reading about the ones turned away (and counted as returns by Obama) so I'm not sure why the difference. I will have to look into it some more.
Me too, because I understood catch and release to be the ones who were already in the interior and they were just trusted to attend their hearing whereas those detained right at the border don't get a hearing, they are simply turned around and sent back south
Posted on 4/4/18 at 4:47 pm to PsychTiger
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Can’t wait to evaluate the PTSD claims from our soldiers having to be around so many illegals.
Thousand yard stares from all that desert time outside Yuma.
Dey seent things
Posted on 4/4/18 at 5:05 pm to HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
I found this in a fox news article:
National Guard soldiers "act as the eyes and ears for the Border Patrol, but by law, do not participate in an enforcement role," the U.S. Army explains on its website. Instead, they're used for surveillance, communications, administrative support, intelligence, analysis and the installation of border security infrastructure.
"The National Guard has been providing Southwest border support for a number of years through our Counterdrug ... program," said Army Maj. Gen. Peter Aylward in a 2010 Army blog post. "Support from the National Guard - but yet a clear division: them not arresting, not engaging in enforcement activities directly attributed to any illegal crossings of either aliens, narcotics or things of that nature ... has worked out very well."
Every site I read says the Guard does not enforce or arrest, they just provide extra surveillance for the border patrol. I wish it could be different and they could forcefully prevent then from stepping over the border.
I have read many articles saying that catch and release AT THE BORDER is the standard operating procedure...nobody is turned around and sent back. Here's just one article:
LINK
National Guard soldiers "act as the eyes and ears for the Border Patrol, but by law, do not participate in an enforcement role," the U.S. Army explains on its website. Instead, they're used for surveillance, communications, administrative support, intelligence, analysis and the installation of border security infrastructure.
"The National Guard has been providing Southwest border support for a number of years through our Counterdrug ... program," said Army Maj. Gen. Peter Aylward in a 2010 Army blog post. "Support from the National Guard - but yet a clear division: them not arresting, not engaging in enforcement activities directly attributed to any illegal crossings of either aliens, narcotics or things of that nature ... has worked out very well."
Every site I read says the Guard does not enforce or arrest, they just provide extra surveillance for the border patrol. I wish it could be different and they could forcefully prevent then from stepping over the border.
I have read many articles saying that catch and release AT THE BORDER is the standard operating procedure...nobody is turned around and sent back. Here's just one article:
LINK
Posted on 4/4/18 at 5:08 pm to bamarep
Are they going to reverse the trend and allow more immigrants to stay in the US rather than return to Mexico? Genius Trump... Just genius
Posted on 4/4/18 at 5:09 pm to skeeter531
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the installation of border security infrastructure.
i.e., building a big, beautiful wall
Posted on 4/4/18 at 5:11 pm to SlowFlowPro
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i can't wait for the histrionics that this may be confused for a legitimate invasion of Mexico
One could only hope
Posted on 4/4/18 at 5:13 pm to skeeter531
Can’t detain family units
Posted on 4/4/18 at 5:17 pm to HempHead
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I thought you were in the UK, but I guess stationing changes.
Lackland?
Left last year but doing everything in my power to get back.
I’m in Altus
Posted on 4/4/18 at 5:19 pm to bamarep
Hope they get to shoot a few of the invaders
Posted on 4/4/18 at 6:05 pm to LSURussian
he has not thought that far.
Posted on 4/4/18 at 10:11 pm to LSURussian
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Okay, and then what?
Hopefully pack them into cargo planes and take them to Honduras
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