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re: Former KGB agent Yuri Bezmenov perfectly describes the left in America.

Posted on 2/9/18 at 6:41 am to
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 2/9/18 at 6:41 am to
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yeah because the right in America right now is just chocked full of truthful people...I mean alternative facts have their place too...right. Trump never lies and Sarah Sanderson is the pinnacle of verity. We have Senators on the right making up shite about the FBI, bombshells I tell ya, just absolute bombshells.
Posted by TigerMyth36
River Ridge
Member since Nov 2005
41072 posts
Posted on 2/9/18 at 6:44 am to
The fact that you can't read the texts and see something wrong with the FBI proves you are a sack of shite. There's a fact for ya.
Posted by BeefDawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
4747 posts
Posted on 2/9/18 at 6:52 am to
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you need another twenty or fifteen years to educate a new generation of patriotically-minded and common sense people, who would be acting in favor and in the interests of United States society.

This is the part of his statement that didn't age well for us.

Those "half-baked intellectuals" flooded our educational system and hijacked it, then pretty much rewrote history so they could manipulate future generations into believing in and conforming to their ideological paradigm.

We need to take back the educational system if we want to stand a chance.
Posted by jeffsdad
Member since Mar 2007
24147 posts
Posted on 2/9/18 at 6:55 am to
100%, right on button
Posted by BeefDawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
4747 posts
Posted on 2/9/18 at 7:12 am to
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yeah because the right in America right now is just chocked full of truthful people...I mean alternative facts have their place too...right. Trump never lies and Sarah Sanderson is the pinnacle of verity. We have Senators on the right making up shite about the FBI, bombshells I tell ya, just absolute bombshells.

The FBI was writing exoneration letters before even interviewing 17 people and the subject of the investigation.

And you don't believe they did anything wrong?

That's just insane intellectual dishonesty and proof of your ridiculous extreme partisanship. You lose all credibility right there.


You're on the side that uses identity politics and political correctness as a weapon to try and score moral righteousness points. I mean this is your side's biggest agenda and talking point.

Not policy. Not issues that actually effect us and our futures directly. But just effort to shame and demean your opposition so you can claim you're superior and more worthy to lead based on your perception of morality.

You pander to the least educated, the most ignorant, the most dependent on government, the most lazy... for votes. And you've been supposedly championing these people for decades, but they are no better off now than they were decades ago.

Championing this type of voter-base is a conflict of interest too. You can't solve any problems for these groups. If you do, they will abandon you because once they aren't needy and dependent on you, they become your opponent. They move into that group that you try to score shaming and demeaning points against.

If they don't need you, they're your enemy. Therefore you can't ever solve their problems or you will lose their vote.

That's the party and ideology you belong to. It's fake, ever-ineffectual, consciously/sub-consciously self-defeating/self-sabotaging, and has a built in conflict of interest.

This is why when facts and solutions are presented, all your side can do is resort to accusations of bigotry and racism to try and shut down the debate. You need division and people hating each other more than you need solutions and unity. Division and hate keeps your base voting with emotion rather than what's best for them.

That's the Democrat party today.
This post was edited on 2/9/18 at 7:13 am
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
154791 posts
Posted on 2/9/18 at 7:47 am to
Cruiserhog is French for unhinged loon.
Posted by TigerB8
End Communism
Member since Oct 2003
10864 posts
Posted on 2/9/18 at 7:52 am to
I have as well as others have posted on here before about him. Check out his interview on youtube. He talks about the long term process to subvert a nation and its govt in order to bring on communism. It documents exactly what we are going through right now.

Bezemov on Youtube
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
68474 posts
Posted on 2/9/18 at 7:54 am to
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Between them and the Comey/McCabe/Ohr/etc cabal at DOJ/FBI who do you trust more?

I'll take "None of the Above" for all of it Alex
Posted by TaderSalad
mudbug territory
Member since Jul 2014
25983 posts
Posted on 2/9/18 at 8:06 am to
quote:

yeah because the right in America right now is just chocked full of truthful people...I mean alternative facts have their place too...right. Trump never lies and Sarah Sanderson is the pinnacle of verity. We have Senators on the right making up shite about the FBI, bombshells I tell ya, just absolute bombshells.



As olddawg would say

Whataboutism
Posted by dkreller
Laffy
Member since Jan 2009
33467 posts
Posted on 2/9/18 at 8:22 am to
Cruiserhog is a shite bombing robot.

Notice the lack of discussion on his part.
Posted by RCDfan1950
United States
Member since Feb 2007
38792 posts
Posted on 2/9/18 at 8:23 am to
quote:

yeah because the right in America right now is just chocked full of truthful people...I mean alternative facts have their place too...right. Trump never lies and Sarah Sanderson is the pinnacle of verity. We have Senators on the right making up shite about the FBI, bombshells I tell ya, just absolute bombshells.



There it is. Perfect example of 'confirmation bias' and the premise posited in the OP.

Idealism vs Realism. God-based paradigm vs Secular...Rights from God v 'Rights' per 'Mob Rule'. Marxism vs Capitalism. Thomas Sowell's "First Principle" Axiom, further assessing that any attempts at dialogue/compromise is useless.

Sobering.

The OP is further right re any possible
Posted by wfallstiger
Wichita Falls, Texas
Member since Jun 2006
14769 posts
Posted on 2/9/18 at 9:33 am to
The best hope for America will occur when the 60s generation of misfits, misfires, and all around screw ups exit the stage....they have infected the institutions of societal health and their legacy will be: What Not To Do
Posted by Walkthedawg
Dawg Pound
Member since Oct 2012
11466 posts
Posted on 2/9/18 at 9:47 am to
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Cruiserhog


Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
63340 posts
Posted on 2/9/18 at 10:00 am to
Here's his full lecture from the 80's. It would have been better had he done these in the 60's. By the 80's, the 60's marxists had already infested education.

LINK

This is why I liked the DeVos hire. Anything that makes them lose their shite that much must be good.
Posted by jb4
Member since Apr 2013
13710 posts
Posted on 2/9/18 at 10:09 am to
Red commie taking over the educational system is the real collusion
Posted by Champagne
Sabine Free State.
Member since Oct 2007
53698 posts
Posted on 2/9/18 at 10:10 am to
I agree but I would replace the notion of "demoralization" with that of "indoctrination". These people are indoctrinated rather than demoralized.

And as for the notion that it will get better in 20 years because the little ones will grow up, realize the error, and affect change? I reject that notion. It is not likely to happen because the youth are being thoroughly indoctrinated by the Left. This indoctrination is ruthlessly comprehensive, consisting of every single aspect of their lives: school, university, pop music, all mass media, Hollywood, social media, FedGov information services, "news" media. The comprehensiveness of this indoctrination matches and probably exceeds ALL examples in human history.
This post was edited on 2/9/18 at 10:11 am
Posted by bhtigerfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
33002 posts
Posted on 2/9/18 at 10:10 am to
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You pander to the least educated, the most ignorant, the most dependent on government, the most lazy... for votes. And you've been supposedly championing these people for decades, but they are no better off now than they were decades ago. 
From Wikipedia article on Orwell's Nineteen-Eighty-Four.
quote:

The proles live in poverty and are kept sedated with alcohol, pornography and a national lottery whose winnings are never actually paid out; that is obscured by propaganda and the lack of communication within Oceania.
Sound familiar?
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
27602 posts
Posted on 2/9/18 at 10:14 am to
Why would anyone listen to a KGB propagandist?
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
85182 posts
Posted on 2/9/18 at 10:15 am to
Sen Warner is that you?
Posted by Champagne
Sabine Free State.
Member since Oct 2007
53698 posts
Posted on 2/9/18 at 10:24 am to
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Why would anyone listen to a KGB propagandist?


You are as thoroughly indoctrinated as the Leftists who made you desire you to be! You close your mind immediately and without critical thought to ANY information that challenges any aspect of your Indoctrination.

Ha! Haaaaa !!

You have the intellectual insight of a donkey!



This post was edited on 2/9/18 at 10:26 am
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