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re: Forcing Breweries to Use a Distributor
Posted on 3/12/14 at 2:14 pm to ragincajun03
Posted on 3/12/14 at 2:14 pm to ragincajun03
There was a really good documentary on Netflix about this a while back. I think it featured the Dogfish Head owner.
Posted on 3/12/14 at 2:32 pm to GumboPot
quote:Crony capitalism isn't amusing for those living under it.
Lol at bama...their state excise tax is $18.23 per 80 proof gallon. The highest in the SEC

Posted on 3/12/14 at 3:19 pm to upgrayedd
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There was a really good documentary on Netflix about this a while back. I think it featured the Dogfish Head owner.
i think it was called beer wars.
agreed - great documentary.
Posted on 3/12/14 at 3:24 pm to BamaFan89
FYI, here are the state excise tax maps.
Beer:
Wine:
Spirits:
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Posted on 3/12/14 at 3:48 pm to GumboPot
^guess the south ain't all that 'conservative' ...
Posted on 3/12/14 at 3:56 pm to ragincajun03
It's the same reason florists have to be licensed in LA.
bullshite reasons.
bullshite reasons.
Posted on 3/12/14 at 4:00 pm to ragincajun03
Republicans gonna republican.
Posted on 3/12/14 at 4:01 pm to AUCE05
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Republicans gonna republican.
LOL at the notion that this shite is in any way connected to specific political parties.

Posted on 3/12/14 at 6:31 pm to Y.A. Tittle
quote:That's funny. I work out of my housed and my company refuses to go into distribution.
What distributor do you work for?
Maybe I just understand business costs and processes better than you do.
Posted on 3/12/14 at 7:13 pm to ragincajun03
I heard recently that all of the beer bought by consumers in lousiana is sold through 18 families
This post was edited on 4/12/17 at 9:55 pm
Posted on 3/12/14 at 7:28 pm to ragincajun03
The people passing these laws are the ones conservatives want to trust to elect senators.
Posted on 3/12/14 at 8:01 pm to ragincajun03
Its crony capitalism and big corporate protectionism at its worst. Its held over from prohibition days.
Watch Beer Wars - it is very informative.
Miller, Anheuser Busch (and to a lesser extent Coors) control virtually all the shelf space in the country. They are in cahoots with the distributors and the big grocery chains. It is extremely difficult for an independent brewer to get their product to market. And it is illegal for them to sell it themselves.
That just aint American.
Watch Beer Wars - it is very informative.
Miller, Anheuser Busch (and to a lesser extent Coors) control virtually all the shelf space in the country. They are in cahoots with the distributors and the big grocery chains. It is extremely difficult for an independent brewer to get their product to market. And it is illegal for them to sell it themselves.
That just aint American.
Posted on 3/12/14 at 8:16 pm to kingbob
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Posted by kingbob on 3/12 at 1:12 pm to ragincajun03 because then they wouldn't be able to get kick backs from the Mocklers.
Tell me more? My understanding from breweries over here is that it's a family thing. Eventually people realize there's a ceiling because you aren't one of the "godfathers" children and leave.
Posted on 3/12/14 at 8:24 pm to HubbaBubba
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Maybe I just understand business costs and processes better than you do.
You mean ones that require state statutory enforcement to keep in place as is?
Posted on 3/13/14 at 2:56 pm to Y.A. Tittle
quote:No, I understand what a distributor offers and what they don't offer and I also understand the costs, benefits and risks associated with going it alone. Has nothing to do with any support of distribution. In fact, dimwit, if you had read my posts, I advocated for anyone to be able to go to market however they choose. Has nothing to do with a state's regulatory propensities to protect certain businesses, which is completely wrong in some instances and absolutely imperative in others. For example, I would think you'd want flight training schools to be licensed and regulated, yes? Some make sense and others don't, but since government is used to regulating, they don't always necessarily use good sense in doing so.
You mean ones that require state statutory enforcement to keep in place as is?
Posted on 3/13/14 at 2:59 pm to HubbaBubba
Jesus, man, sweet bump. I see I meant, dimwit, eh?
At no point, have I argued there may not be a valid reason to use a distribution system in any number of situation. I just don't think one can justify it being legally mandated.
If a distribution system makes sense from a business perspective, then there's no reason to legislate someone who wants to operate outside it.
At no point, have I argued there may not be a valid reason to use a distribution system in any number of situation. I just don't think one can justify it being legally mandated.
If a distribution system makes sense from a business perspective, then there's no reason to legislate someone who wants to operate outside it.
This post was edited on 3/13/14 at 3:02 pm
Posted on 3/13/14 at 3:00 pm to ragincajun03
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Can someone give a legit argument why a brewery should not be allowed to sell all of their product directly to the consumer if they so please.
if those beers break down, who's going to be there to service them?
Posted on 3/13/14 at 3:00 pm to ragincajun03
The unofficial grandaddy of the microbrews in Michigan, Bell's, had a beef with Chicago distributors for a couple of years and was kept out of the market by the mafia there because of this nonsense.
I toured a couple breweries in Chicago in December. One of them had to jump through a bunch of hoops just to be able to sell their own product at the brewery. The guy giving the tour said the good news is that many of these antiquated laws are going to way of the dinosaur, leading to the micro brewery and distillery boom.
I toured a couple breweries in Chicago in December. One of them had to jump through a bunch of hoops just to be able to sell their own product at the brewery. The guy giving the tour said the good news is that many of these antiquated laws are going to way of the dinosaur, leading to the micro brewery and distillery boom.
Posted on 3/13/14 at 4:50 pm to Bunk Moreland
In Oregon, there are a number of breweries that sell only to the consumers. There are some that self-distribute to bottle shops and bars, and their are others that follow use the traditional distributors.
I think they could repeal the law and not much would change. You might see an uptick in small, local brewpubs that make the beer that they sell on the premise, but most brewers using the distributors now will probably continue to do so.
It really isn't very economical to self distribute. I know Ale Apothecary and Block 15 (two of my favorite breweries) self-distribute, but I can't imagine that they would continue to do so if they expand their production at all...
I think they could repeal the law and not much would change. You might see an uptick in small, local brewpubs that make the beer that they sell on the premise, but most brewers using the distributors now will probably continue to do so.
It really isn't very economical to self distribute. I know Ale Apothecary and Block 15 (two of my favorite breweries) self-distribute, but I can't imagine that they would continue to do so if they expand their production at all...
This post was edited on 3/13/14 at 4:51 pm
Posted on 3/13/14 at 4:57 pm to SG_Geaux
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It's the good ole boy network.
Yup. It's the same here.
The original Abita Brewery, now the brew pub, still has a working brewery where they can brew their own beer. However, for them to sell it to customers, they have to sell it to a distributor and then buy it back.
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