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Posted on 5/16/19 at 6:22 pm to antibarner
quote:
. Now how can you be charged with a crime for killing a clump of cells?
Because the woman whose body the cells reside in did not decide to end their existence, an external factor did.
You're really this dense?
Posted on 5/16/19 at 6:26 pm to mouton
When it says, “frick you dad, I’m going to the party!” At that point you should have a 30 second shot clock to kill it.
Posted on 5/16/19 at 6:31 pm to BamaAtl
That's just foolish,the individual's decision has nothing to do with whether it is a living being or not. You are out of your mind if you think you can sell that.
So, since Mom wants to abort this fetus, that's ok, but someone else cause problems, that's a human being we are charging you with a crime. No sale Chuckles.
Muh Fetus!
So, since Mom wants to abort this fetus, that's ok, but someone else cause problems, that's a human being we are charging you with a crime. No sale Chuckles.
Muh Fetus!
This post was edited on 5/16/19 at 6:33 pm
Posted on 5/16/19 at 6:31 pm to mouton
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This post was edited on 5/16/19 at 6:33 pm
Posted on 5/16/19 at 6:36 pm to antibarner
quote:
the individual's decision has nothing to do with whether it is a living being or not
Sure it does, when one individual only lives AND CAN ONLY LIVE because the other choose to allow it to do so. There can be no other caretaker but the pregnant woman.
quote:
You are out of your mind if you think you can sell that.
I don't have to sell shite, it's what most Americans believe. The fact that your little bubble is so wildly out of touch with average Americans isn't really my concern.
Posted on 5/16/19 at 6:39 pm to ShortyRob
quote:
Hence, from my perspective, while it's probably technically true to consider the fertilization "conception", I tend to take the view that conception occurs when it implants.
That’s quite arbitrary.
Posted on 5/16/19 at 6:40 pm to mouton
I'm both pro-life and pro-choice; I'm pro-choice for reasons that have nothing to do with the humanness of a fetus.
Posted on 5/16/19 at 6:44 pm to ShortyRob
quote:
from my perspective, while it's probably technically true to consider the fertilization "conception", I tend to take the view that conception occurs when it implants.
That's pretty convenient. And pretty stupid.
Posted on 5/16/19 at 7:47 pm to BamaAtl
You're a fricking monster. That makes no sense at all. You admit the entity is an individual and can be murdered at a whim. You would have fit in quite well at the Concentration Camps.
This post was edited on 5/16/19 at 7:50 pm
Posted on 5/17/19 at 10:12 am to antibarner
quote:what she is saying doesn't change the fact that a human being was killed. what should the charge be? did the criminal know she was pregnant? if so, homicide is not out of the question i suppose.
And should your answer be manslaughter, just how can that be? During said act, she sure won't be crying, My fetus my fetus, now will she?
quote:this is a bit of an overgeneralization. i doubt this characterization is true in every single scenario. however, it is true that there should be no inconsistency in how the fetus is treated.
the law is trying to have it both ways. If Mom decides to take the little tyke out, why that's fine. It's not a human being anyway. But you let someone else cause problems and it's My baby!
Posted on 5/17/19 at 10:15 am to antibarner
quote:
You're a fricking monster. That makes no sense at all. You admit the entity is an individual and can be murdered at a whim. You would have fit in quite well at the Concentration Camps.
I thought only libs called people Nazis when they didn't agree.
Posted on 5/17/19 at 10:16 am to antibarner
quote:
You're a fricking monster. That makes no sense at all. You admit the entity is an individual and can be murdered at a whim. You would have fit in quite well at the Concentration Camps.
Liberals are literally hitler!
Can't make this shite up
Posted on 5/17/19 at 10:17 am to 88Wildcat
quote:and this has been answered. it is at the moment of conception
My question is when is it life and when is it the potential for life
quote:? a miscarriage is not a case of the mother killing the baby. it's the natural process doing what it is supposed to do, as in the fetus was not viable.
Women miscarry all the time. Nobody ever suggests they should be charged with manslaughter
quote:look up sled. your comment fails badly
To me it is only a life if it is able to function biologically on its own and does not require a connection to the mother in the form of an umbilical cord to survive.
Posted on 5/17/19 at 10:18 am to bfniii
quote:
and this has been answered. it is at the moment of conception
No matter how many times you say it, there is no consensus on this. It's not written in the bible or the koran or the constitution. Doctors don't agree. Biologists don't agree.
This post was edited on 5/17/19 at 10:19 am
Posted on 5/17/19 at 10:22 am to Demshoes
Deserves this:
The right to Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness.
Does not deserve this:
If you are lucky to get born, the right to other peoples money.
The right to Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness.
Does not deserve this:
If you are lucky to get born, the right to other peoples money.
Posted on 5/17/19 at 10:24 am to cahoots
Not all of them by any means. This one definitely. Reasonable people can agree to disagree, even on this subject. This one knows it ALL on every subject and even when proven wrong will never admit it. The Baghdad Bob of the board. " Why no those aren't US tanks in front of the building we are destroying the infidels even as I speak!"
She's one of those third trimester murderers. That IS cold blooded murder any way you slice it. No defending that. She would have fit right in with the SS Totenkopfverbande slamming the oven doors.
She's one of those third trimester murderers. That IS cold blooded murder any way you slice it. No defending that. She would have fit right in with the SS Totenkopfverbande slamming the oven doors.
This post was edited on 5/17/19 at 10:30 am
Posted on 5/17/19 at 10:26 am to Odysseus32
quote:they do have that choice. however, after a woman gets pregnant, she does not have the right to muder a baby. how is this still being discussed? it's already been explained itt.
I believe that a person should have the ability to decide if they want a child or not
quote:so does nazi eugenics. this is TERRIBLE reason to allow murder. you could be killing someone amazing.
allowing abortion alleviates strain on a society.
quote:no, it is a human at the moment of conception.
You all seem to be looking at a fetus in terms of its future
quote:how is this still a question? there is no personhood gap between parents and offspring. my word we have done a terrible job at educating people on this.
You aren’t denying a person of life because that person doesn’t exist
quote:i know there is no personhood gap and i know that a person's life begins at conception.
think you know the answers to life and the difference between right and wrong, and it’s just not true.
quote:and you're saying ignorant things
you see it fit to impose other ways of life on those around you because of your miserable existences.
quote:you realize there are prolife people outside of the south right? what i have said is not true by region. it's true of everyone everywhere
It makes me very fricking glad I don’t live in the south anymore
Posted on 5/17/19 at 10:27 am to WB Davis
quote:that's a birth certificate, not a life certificate. it's like pro choice people are 5 years old.
here's a legal document, valid in all 50 states, that tells you the exact day that a fetus becomes a human being
Posted on 5/17/19 at 10:29 am to germandawg
quote:you are conflating two different issues. the welfare of people is not a reason to allow murder
the redder the state the poorer the population and the harder it is to imagine that kids are bing taken care of as they should be.
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