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re: For those that still think Obama's net neutrality is good
Posted on 6/27/17 at 8:23 am to GumboPot
Posted on 6/27/17 at 8:23 am to GumboPot
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Prices are too low and service is good enough.
the current ISP monopolies are some of the worst reviewed companies right now, so this seems false
people use them because they don't have any other choice
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Posted on 6/27/17 at 8:28 am to Salmon
Posted on 6/27/17 at 8:28 am to SlowFlowPro
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if more budget options are available to poor people and more poor people get internet access, that's a bad thing?
You can already get free internet access if you're poor, due to a Bush-era program.
Hence, you're lying when you say revoking net neutrality will lead to more poor people getting internet services.
What it will do, however, is create a tiered internet - so certain sites are only available to those able to pay for them. This will serve to lock poor people out of the internet.
Posted on 6/27/17 at 8:30 am to notsince98
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Obama's net neutrality
Infowars damn sure knows their target audience. Doesn't take much to whip this crowd into line
Posted on 6/27/17 at 8:31 am to Salmon
quote:Not to put words in his mouth, but I believe the OP is trying to say that he would rather not have government created monopolies and in order to do that, government must be hands off. Granted the damage is already done, but the answer isn't more government involvement.
in your world, you want government created monopolies to be unregulated
I believe that's the crux of the OP, anyway.
Posted on 6/27/17 at 8:33 am to Old Hellen Yeller
quote:So does every other media outlet. Not sure what your point is here? Surely you aren't saying that MSM is any more truth based.
Infowars damn sure knows their target audience.
Posted on 6/27/17 at 8:34 am to BamaAtl
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What it will do, however, is create a tiered internet - so certain sites are only available to those able to pay for them. This will serve to lock poor people out of the internet.
We already have a tiered internet under the current rules:
Posted on 6/27/17 at 8:43 am to notsince98
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net neutrality
= "I'm from the government and I'm here to help"
No thanks, we got this.
Posted on 6/27/17 at 8:44 am to GumboPot
Tiered by speed =/= tiered by specific sites.
Posted on 6/27/17 at 8:44 am to GumboPot
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There is nothing like good competition to keep other ISPs honest. For example, a new ISP could partner with Netflix or Hulu and lay their own fiber and offer quadrupedal the speeds of current ISPs at a slightly lower prices. Start in highly dense areas and move out. That's how you keep other ISPs honest.
That would be the American/capitalist way and that's good. Fiber is a efficient transmission medium for data but the big dogs are moving towards a predominantly wireless network to the end user, 5G has reached download speeds over 1gigabit.
Posted on 6/27/17 at 8:45 am to GumboPot
quote:That isn't access to sites. That's internet speed. Completely different.
What it will do, however, is create a tiered internet - so certain sites are only available to those able to pay for them. This will serve to lock poor people out of the internet.
We already have a tiered internet under the current rules:
Posted on 6/27/17 at 8:47 am to Bass Tiger
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That would be the American/capitalist way and that's good. Fiber is a efficient transmission medium for data but the big dogs are moving towards a predominantly wireless network to the end user, 5G has reached download speeds over 1gigabit.
This is great. More content at higher speeds and larger network.
Posted on 6/27/17 at 8:48 am to Salmon
Watching you Reddit drones parrot your pre tested and continuously fed propaganda whenever the key words are shown on screen is really something to behold.
Amazing operant conditioning
Amazing operant conditioning
Posted on 6/27/17 at 8:48 am to BamaAtl
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Tiered by speed =/= tiered by specific sites.
Yeah, I'm afraid that the NPR bundle will be $9.99 per month and the InfoWars bundle will be $99.99 per month under government run internet.
Posted on 6/27/17 at 8:51 am to BamaAtl
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You're in favor of this:
Why?
Because conservative talk radio and news is always tied in with corporate sponsors in the corporate sponsors really wanting at neutrality to go away so they can make a lot more money off of all of us. Conservative idiots like the ones on this board or the ones that would line up to f*** themselves in the arse
Posted on 6/27/17 at 8:53 am to Bass Tiger
quote:It would certainly be the capitalist/free market way. But in no way is that the American way. Net neutrality is just the latest shining example of that.
There is nothing like good competition to keep other ISPs honest. For example, a new ISP could partner with Netflix or Hulu and lay their own fiber and offer quadrupedal the speeds of current ISPs at a slightly lower prices. Start in highly dense areas and move out. That's how you keep other ISPs honest.
That would be the American/capitalist way and that's good.
It's truly sad to see Americans slip deeper and deeper into acceptance that Fascism is the new freedom and liberty.
Posted on 6/27/17 at 9:04 am to GumboPot
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1. Propose fiber routes.
2. Hire survey company.
3. Conduct survey and engineering.
4. Acquire ROW, easements and permits.
5. Bid out project.
6. Execute project.
7. Start up.
8. Hook up new costumers.
Posted on 6/27/17 at 9:04 am to Ebbandflow
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Because conservative talk radio and news is always tied in with corporate sponsors in the corporate sponsors really wanting at neutrality to go away so they can make a lot more money off of all of us. Conservative idiots like the ones on this board or the ones that would line up to f*** themselves in the arse
So people are idiots because you don't like their purchases?
Posted on 6/27/17 at 9:07 am to Salmon
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the current ISP monopolies are some of the worst reviewed companies right now, so this seems false
people use them because they don't have any other choice
Some of you are too young to remember the ISP wars.
Every household in the USA used to get CD's with browser software in the mail everyday from ISP's. AOL, MSN, every Tom, Dick, and Harry with a server offered dial-up.
They bought, sold, chopped each other up. What we have now is the result of unfettered, unlimited ISP access. The strong survived, the weak got eaten up by the strong. There were legal fights against the phone carriers demanding they allow access to the phone lines. ATT, Verizon, etc., cannot deny Joe's Corner ISP access to the use of their network.
It's called the market and we are in a mature ISP market. I would be surprised once the big boys lay the fiber all over if a fresh round of new entries does not occur, with newbies demanding access to the fiber network.
There is nothing stopping anyone from opening an ISP business. It's up to individuals and investors and strategy if the new ISP will survive though.
Posted on 6/27/17 at 9:08 am to BamaAtl
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What it will do, however, is create a tiered internet - so certain sites are only available to those able to pay for them. This will serve to lock poor people out of the internet.
No, it will serve to lock poor people out of higher tiered content. And what kind of content do you think will occupy the higher tiers?
Seems very similar to tv providers.. HBO, Showtime, etc.
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