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re: For those of you that say Vivek is obnoxious

Posted on 12/7/23 at 8:54 am to
Posted by RiverCityTider
Jacksonville, Florida
Member since Oct 2008
6541 posts
Posted on 12/7/23 at 8:54 am to
I really think the anti-Vivek crowd are RINOs or nwo communists. To attack the ONLY candidate saying what needs to be said with such weak and flimsy crap has to have some ulterior motive.
Posted by aggressor
Austin, TX
Member since Sep 2011
9263 posts
Posted on 12/7/23 at 8:54 am to
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I just think he’s a complete fraud.



What does this mean?

What do you suppose is his real agenda?


Vivek has very, very little record that is relevant and even with that little record there are inconsistencies. Many things about his stances and life story don't add up or run counter to what he has done. That's why he needs to run for Senate or Governor or serve in government in some other capacity before anyone thinks about giving him the keys to the car.

I don't think he is a complete fraud but I do think he is fundamentally a guy that made his money because he convinced people to give him money to invest with. He's a tremendous salesman and that's a great asset. Unfortunately that's only one very small part of being President. When his company went public for instance he only had a handful of employees, most of which were family members. It's ok not to have been in government before but even Trump got his arse handed to him by the Swamp and he had 1000x the experience in the private sector and had been dealing with government in a variety of ways for decades.

I think the biggest issues with Vivek is his hubris. He acts as though he is the only one to think of many of the ideas he has and simply because he read a book and is smart that he can just magically make things happen. The problem is DC is filled with some very smart people who read the same books and then some and have decades of experience destroying guys like him. You have to run a super tight ship with a real plan and lots of allies to have a chance in DC and Vivek simply doesn't have those assets. DeSantis is the only one who does.
Posted by boogiewoogie1978
Little Rock
Member since Aug 2012
19311 posts
Posted on 12/7/23 at 8:55 am to
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and has never held an elected position.

How's those career politicians working out for you?
Posted by Ribbed
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2023
2745 posts
Posted on 12/7/23 at 8:56 am to
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How's those career politicians working out for you?

How's that grifting globalist with pharmaceutical backing working out for you.
Posted by HailToTheChiz
Back in Auburn
Member since Aug 2010
53587 posts
Posted on 12/7/23 at 9:00 am to
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Don’t be confused. I don’t think he’s obnoxious. I just think he’s a complete fraud.


Why not both?
Posted by RealityWinsOut
Member since Oct 2023
1454 posts
Posted on 12/7/23 at 9:14 am to
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The American Idol crowd likes Vivek.

They want to be entertained more than anything. Sad.

Passive aggressive TDS. Well done
Posted by GabeK
Somewhere you never been
Member since Oct 2021
75 posts
Posted on 12/7/23 at 9:16 am to
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has never held an elected position.

Is that a bad thing?

What will Trump supporters say when he's part of Trump's administration?
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
109503 posts
Posted on 12/7/23 at 9:18 am to
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aggressor


Agree with all that.
Posted by boogiewoogie1978
Little Rock
Member since Aug 2012
19311 posts
Posted on 12/7/23 at 9:23 am to
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How's that grifting globalist with pharmaceutical backing working out for you.


I don't know but I know what these "experienced" politicians have done. But I guess I'm just criticizing their record because I don't have one.
Posted by Ribbed
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2023
2745 posts
Posted on 12/7/23 at 9:24 am to
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I don't know.

We all know. Don't get mad at us because we can spot the con.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
92961 posts
Posted on 12/7/23 at 9:25 am to
The Ron cult was calling for Vivem to be Rons VP
Posted by Ribbed
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2023
2745 posts
Posted on 12/7/23 at 9:29 am to
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The Ron cult was calling for Vivem to be Rons VP

I don't remember that, but I'm sure it was a wide spread sentiment and easily demonstrable.
Posted by AUTiger1978
Member since Jan 2018
1163 posts
Posted on 12/7/23 at 9:33 am to
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Vivek is the zoomers choice. Loud, accusatory without having any experience to stand on or make claims.

It’s easy to criticize when you have no foundation to stand on.


This may not apply to you Roger, but the irony of anyone who voted for Trump saying this is off the charts. I see people that I know voted for Trump say some variation of this over and over, on TD and in the real world.

I think it’s obvious that most Republicans are desperately searching for candidates that have experience outside of politics. It seems that most of the insiders with experience hold views more aligned with warmongering Nimrata than Thomas Massey.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
125051 posts
Posted on 12/7/23 at 9:36 am to
There’s a blueprint out there that gets followed every election.

A successful businessman/woman declares their candidacy for some Republican position.

Voters say “Whoa. He was successful at business. And if you can run a business, you’re going to be good at government. We should elect him/her.”
Posted by Ribbed
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2023
2745 posts
Posted on 12/7/23 at 9:36 am to
My position on Trump the first time was that if he was going to wreck the GOP, that deserved four years. Anything else was gravy. He got his four years. He did what I wanted done. I don't have to support a second term to validate my choice.

Ramaswamy is a snake and offers me nothing I want.
This post was edited on 12/7/23 at 9:37 am
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
10327 posts
Posted on 12/7/23 at 9:39 am to
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Don’t be confused. I don’t think he’s obnoxious. I just think he’s a complete fraud.


This.

Was he speaking "truth" 18 months ago when he was taking the opposite positions? Or is he "speaking truth" now?

What about when he switches back as it becomes convenient? Will that be "truth?"

I think he's good to have around as an attack dog against liberals (right now, anyway, as long as he hasn't flip flopped his stances), but anybody who thinks he POTUS material has been sniffing too much Scotch guard.
This post was edited on 12/7/23 at 9:39 am
Posted by boogiewoogie1978
Little Rock
Member since Aug 2012
19311 posts
Posted on 12/7/23 at 9:40 am to
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Ribbed

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My position on Trump the first time was that if he was going to wreck the GOP,

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He got his four years. He did what I wanted done.


Did he? They've dug in and are fighting even harder. Just curious. Who do you support this go round?
Posted by themunch
bottom of the list
Member since Jan 2007
71268 posts
Posted on 12/7/23 at 9:41 am to
My son asked that I thought of this person. I had no favorable reason to like him.
Posted by Ribbed
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2023
2745 posts
Posted on 12/7/23 at 9:44 am to
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Did he? They've dug in and are fighting even harder

Did you expect them to lay down and die? Get up and vote. The House and Senate are both within reach for the next president.

I support Desantis. I know he's a longshot, but anything can happen. He's the candidate conservatives have said they wanted since Reagan.
This post was edited on 12/7/23 at 9:46 am
Posted by Elblancodiablo
Member since Sep 2023
1829 posts
Posted on 12/7/23 at 9:45 am to
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DeSantis is the only one who does.

Of course
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