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re: For those of us who are Engineers, Doctors, Scientists….the people who provide REAL…
Posted on 2/7/25 at 8:32 pm to DLauw
Posted on 2/7/25 at 8:32 pm to DLauw
You dumb frick. The point of my story was not that I do not care about the money. My point is that no matter if I have a penalty, even though it would definitely suck, it is worth it because it is an amazing program.
Stop having little dick syndrome… and that will be $200 for nailing your diagnosis
Stop having little dick syndrome… and that will be $200 for nailing your diagnosis
This post was edited on 2/7/25 at 8:33 pm
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Posted on 2/7/25 at 8:34 pm to PurpleSingularity
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Value….Do the DOGE results and actions make us more valuable and sought after as the real problem solvers? Is this the death knell for career politicians?
Can you send me a bag of your feces?
I’m pretty sure it doesn’t stink
This post was edited on 2/7/25 at 8:35 pm
Posted on 2/7/25 at 8:37 pm to PurpleSingularity
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Is this the death knell for career politicians?
No. People will continue to vote for the people who hate the same people they do.
Posted on 2/7/25 at 9:10 pm to dgnx6
"Except lawyers, you can get fricked."
This post nailed it!
This post nailed it!
Posted on 2/7/25 at 9:37 pm to Jake88
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How do you know this? Do technicians respond to 20-40 complaints/problems per day? Maybe they do.
We’re on-call 24/7. Expected to respond to anything within 90 miles within two hours—sometimes further depending on the severity. We work in any weather.
We deal with more people than I’d care to deal with, and we have our own unique problems and conflicts. Oftentimes, if something doesn’t get done, management thinks we’re the problem. Efficient processes get ruined because we’re always creating bullshite positions for people who come up with their own “efficiency models,” and more often than not, they don’t last long; however, they disrupt everything in the process.
We don’t get near the respect we should get, but when it comes to job security, we’re in a good position. It’s not glamorous and it’s seldom rewarding, but we truly keep the lights on.
Posted on 2/7/25 at 9:40 pm to PurpleSingularity
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Doctors, Scientists
legalized drug dealers, and activists for grant money
Posted on 2/7/25 at 9:40 pm to brad8504
What's the full name of the career? What sort of technician?
Posted on 2/7/25 at 9:48 pm to Tider13
I can’t tell you how many times I’ve had to review Ohm’s Law with an engineer to avoid going down a rabbit hole and wasting time and money changing parts that have zero bearing on the issue.
Posted on 2/7/25 at 9:49 pm to Jake88
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What's the full name of the career? What sort of technician?
Electrical tech for a pipeline.
We do mechanic work and any other tasks associated with typical plant operator work. And flagging the line of course.
This post was edited on 2/7/25 at 9:51 pm
Posted on 2/7/25 at 9:49 pm to Plx1776
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Basically. Imo we'd be a third world shithole if there were no blue collar workers. May be even worse than a third world shithole, because even third world shitholes have some blue collar workers
I've worked industrial construction for my entire life, 33 years. Started as a helper and now in management. Honestly, it takes everyone to be successful. There has to be folks to design, manage, and facilitate projects, but if there's no skilled labor to construct...... The engineers are left holding a stack of blue prints in their hands without a clue how to make it happen.
It's illogical to say engineers, doctors, or scientists are more important than those of us that construct and build what has been designed.
The things I've learned from hard work and experience over the years could NEVER be duplicated in a class room.
In fact, most engineers I've worked with have zero common sense.
But it takes everyone doing their part for success.
Posted on 2/7/25 at 10:02 pm to brad8504
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can’t tell you how many times I’ve had to review Ohm’s Law with an engineer to
Tell me…how many times have you needed to review Ohm’s Law with an Electrical Engineer?
Posted on 2/7/25 at 10:14 pm to PurpleSingularity
I am an engineer and value my lab techs, it people, draftsmen, secretaries, drillers, auto mechanics, plumbers, electricians, carpenters, hvac technicians, butchers, bakers, farmers, fishermen, ranchers, farmers, lumberjacks, roofers…. Basically people that work hard and have skills I either don’t have or they are more efficient.
Honor anyone that works hard and does their job well.
Honor anyone that works hard and does their job well.
Posted on 2/7/25 at 10:15 pm to PurpleSingularity
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Tell me…how many times have you needed to review Ohm’s Law with an Electrical Engineer?
You’d be surprised. Twice within the past 9 months, Ohm’s Law and the law of conservation of energy have come into play.
Probably a dozen times over the years.
So not the “hundreds” you were probably hoping for, but still. Most of the issues are simple mistakes made by greenhorns. The recent ones make we wonder sometimes. They’re sharp guys and super great to work with, but another trait engineers have that irks me is they over analyze problems that require simple solutions.
Posted on 2/7/25 at 10:37 pm to POTUS2024
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POTUS2024
Fake politicians like you provide no value.
Posted on 2/7/25 at 10:47 pm to brad8504
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You’d be surprised. Twice within the past 9 months, Ohm’s Law and the law of conservation of energy have come into play.
What type of Engineers were they?
Posted on 2/7/25 at 11:03 pm to Narax
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What type of Engineers were they?
Electrical…
We also covered Watt’s Law during one of the interactions.
I contested that the electrical drawing was wrong. 480V, 15A breaker supplying a 240V, 40A breaker did not add up. It needed to be a 20A breaker on the 480 side, and it kept tripping throughout the year at random times.
They argued it was inrush current on strip heaters with FLA’s of 1A inside the 240V control box. 4 heaters on a 6A breaker. The 6A breaker never tripped throughout all of this. It happened during winter and summer (when heaters never turned on).
So they assumed it may be the fans. Then they questioned some of the resistors in a few circuits. We went through Ohm’s Law together to verify they were correct.
After two hours, there was a pause. I showed them the math:
9600W = 480V x 20A
9600W = 240V x 40A
Switched out the 15 for a 20 and haven’t had a trip since.
Shocking, I know.
Posted on 2/7/25 at 11:22 pm to brad8504
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Shocking, I know.
Lesson number one of being an engineer is listen to the people who are working with whatever it is.
App Users, Pilots, Maintainers etc...
Whoever is familiar with it knows more about whats going on than the Engineer does.
If you didn't design it and you aren't using it, don't assume you know what's going on.
Gain Data, Investigate, then form theories.
Posted on 2/7/25 at 11:29 pm to brad8504
I had a site supervisor who will give a prospective engineer or electronic technician hire during the interview a written quiz and the first question was "What is Ohm's Law?"
You would be surprised how many Electrical Engineers and Electronic Techs would not answer correctly. If the prospective hire did not answer correctly they were not even considered.
You would be surprised how many Electrical Engineers and Electronic Techs would not answer correctly. If the prospective hire did not answer correctly they were not even considered.
Posted on 2/7/25 at 11:32 pm to PurpleSingularity
My dad was a doctor and frequently said “don’t confuse education with intelligence”. He was friends with people in all forms of blue collar work. He loved these Cajuns who could fix and repair anything. He loved and respected them.
Posted on 2/7/25 at 11:45 pm to PurpleSingularity
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Value….Do the DOGE results and actions make us more valuable and sought after as the real problem solvers?
Is this the death knell for career politicians?
Hey, engineer, doctor or scientist. Do you like eating? I guess you'll need those worthless farmers to stick around. You like to drive, and not take a horse to work? Guess you'll need those crusty oil field/offshore workers, and not just the people who design the machines.
You like having your packages delivered to your door? Afraid you'll need those useless delivery drivers. You like your house? Maybe you can build one yourself, if you decide to move.
I'm not concerned about the answer to your question. That kind of smugness doesn't warrant an answer.
This post was edited on 2/7/25 at 11:48 pm
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