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Posted on 8/14/17 at 4:15 pm to LSUconvert
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You're proud of treasonous traitors
Point to evidence that Seccession was against the Constitution, or even illegal, prior to th war.
And yes I am proud of my family. Had I been alive I would have gladly joined them in the effort.
Posted on 8/14/17 at 4:15 pm to RandySavage
Dude so accurate bc IIRC slavery wasn't officially outlawed unilaterally until passage of the 13th Amendment after the war so the USA maintained the "peculiar institution" for roughly 80 years so they're just as guilty as the Confederates, guess we should remove the US flag too. These libs just dismiss logic with all their moral argument BS, it's insane.
Posted on 8/14/17 at 4:15 pm to NYNolaguy1
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What other history should we erase?
I doubt taking down some monuments of Cofederate war "heroes" will make anyone forget they were fighting to preserve chattel slavery.
Posted on 8/14/17 at 4:16 pm to NYNolaguy1
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What other history should we erase?
Link to that happening?
Posted on 8/14/17 at 4:16 pm to Tyrusrex
I grew up in the Richmond metro area. Of course we knew about monument ave and that there were old civil war guys here on there along the road.
Other than that, nothing was ever said about them. There weren't rallies. We never went to "admire" them. Hell, I never even stopped by one because most of them are in the middle of the damn road.
I don't understand why they are so divisive now. Why now?
Having said that, if the people of Richmond vote to take them down and move them then I wouldn't be upset. I'm not a citizen of Richmond and believe in their right to do as they please as long as they get a say.
I would be disappointed because I view this as partly a prog tactic but at the end of the day I'd forget about it quickly. Hell, the museum that takes them will rake in money for a while because they'd be easier to "admire" not being in the middle of the street.
Other than that, nothing was ever said about them. There weren't rallies. We never went to "admire" them. Hell, I never even stopped by one because most of them are in the middle of the damn road.
I don't understand why they are so divisive now. Why now?
Having said that, if the people of Richmond vote to take them down and move them then I wouldn't be upset. I'm not a citizen of Richmond and believe in their right to do as they please as long as they get a say.
I would be disappointed because I view this as partly a prog tactic but at the end of the day I'd forget about it quickly. Hell, the museum that takes them will rake in money for a while because they'd be easier to "admire" not being in the middle of the street.
This post was edited on 8/14/17 at 4:17 pm
Posted on 8/14/17 at 4:17 pm to NYNolaguy1
When they turn it into a moral argument in which they are the arbiters of what is right and moral, it really bothers me. They always use the logic of, "Well, I just said this particular thing is immoral so if you disagree with me, you are an immoral, hateful bigot".
It's leftist puritanical ideology 101
It's leftist puritanical ideology 101
Posted on 8/14/17 at 4:17 pm to roadGator
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I don't understand why they are so divisive now. Why now?
Because of radical progressivism and social media.
Posted on 8/14/17 at 4:17 pm to The Spleen
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chattel slavery.
look at this dude using a legal term, ace
Posted on 8/14/17 at 4:18 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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Link to that happening?
You know as well as I do that removing a few confederate statues won't quell this movement.
Posted on 8/14/17 at 4:22 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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Link to that happening?
The liberty square monument in New Orleans was a memorial to both sides who fought and died, including NOLA metro police fighting the White League.
Remembering those who died on both sides was controversial I suppose and needed to come down before too many people knew what happened.
75% of New Orleans residents have no idea what happened that day. By removing the memorial that number grows ever higher.
Posted on 8/14/17 at 4:22 pm to upgrayedd
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You know as well as I do that removing a few confederate statues won't quell this movement.
What do you think will happen that will "erase history?"
Posted on 8/14/17 at 4:23 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
If I may, do you think the left will stop after statues?
Posted on 8/14/17 at 4:23 pm to NYNolaguy1
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The liberty square monument in New Orleans was a memorial to both sides who fought and died, including NOLA metro police fighting the White League.
Remembering those who died on both sides was controversial I suppose and needed to come down before too many people knew what happened.
75% of New Orleans residents have no idea what happened that day. By removing the memorial that number grows ever higher.
Did you forget what happened when they removed it?
Also, I think it's a little amusing, but mostly sad if we're relying on sculpted stone to teach people about the history of our country.
Posted on 8/14/17 at 4:24 pm to The Spleen
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I doubt taking down some monuments of Cofederate war "heroes" will make anyone forget they were fighting to preserve chattel slavery.
Yet there were... Union States... with slavery... after the civil war ended.
How could this be possible if the war the Union (the good guys) were fighting the Confederacy (the bad guys) over slavery?
Posted on 8/14/17 at 4:24 pm to roadGator
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If I may, do you think the left will stop after statues?
Maybe not, but I'm not going to cry myself to sleep if Robert E. Lee High School decides to change their name, either.
Posted on 8/14/17 at 4:26 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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if Robert E. Lee High School decides to change their name
I don't think that's how this is all going down.
Robert E Lee statue in city x isn't saying "frick it, I'm out".
Posted on 8/14/17 at 4:26 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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What do you think will happen that will "erase history?"
Its much easier to create your own story when it all of the memorials fit into a nice neat narrative.
Kind of like MLK being an adulterer or Ted Kennedy being a murderer. Facts are pesky things.
Posted on 8/14/17 at 4:26 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
No, they'll go after history books next if we permit them to, all that re-education shitt
Posted on 8/14/17 at 4:28 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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Also, I think it's a little amusing, but mostly sad if we're relying on sculpted stone to teach people about the history of our country.
You find it hard to believe that only certain portions of history are being taught to "set the record straight"? Come on man...
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