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re: For anyone in favor of taking the side of removing Confederate symbols...
Posted on 8/14/17 at 7:21 pm to NC_Tigah
Posted on 8/14/17 at 7:21 pm to NC_Tigah
Don't waste your time, he has been saying there is nothing wrong with the statue/monument removals for days. He just wants to go against the grain and stir the pot for no reason other than he is an arse. He is trolling.
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Posted on 8/14/17 at 7:26 pm to RandySavage
Anyone who is for them being removed should also be for destroying the vast majority of ancient buildings, ruins etc.
Also they should be protesting the Portuguese, Dutch, Brazil, Britain, France and several other nations.
Bunch of fricking whining hypocrites.
Also they should be protesting the Portuguese, Dutch, Brazil, Britain, France and several other nations.
Bunch of fricking whining hypocrites.
Posted on 8/14/17 at 7:33 pm to cajunangelle
quote:Oh I'm keenly aware.
Don't waste your time, he has been saying there is nothing wrong with the statue/monument removals for days.
Posted on 8/14/17 at 7:43 pm to RandySavage
Almost all of the confederate monuments are less than 70 years old....
The one in question was placed there in the 20's.......
The one in question was placed there in the 20's.......
This post was edited on 8/14/17 at 7:45 pm
Posted on 8/14/17 at 7:49 pm to NC_Tigah
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Yet . . . nothing.
Correct. Gonna need that admission.
Posted on 8/14/17 at 7:52 pm to cajunangelle
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He is trolling.
I'd never troll NC. He's one of the few posters here that'll get a serious discussion from me. For the most part...
Posted on 8/14/17 at 7:53 pm to NC_Tigah
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We seem to be at opposite poles on the issue of monuments. I.e., their purpose, detriment of tearing them down, and stupidity of not simply adding more to honor events/individuals we've failed to appropriately include.
Perhaps.
To be clear, I'm certainly not going to push for their removal.
Posted on 8/14/17 at 8:09 pm to 10888bge
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Secondly the USA once formed realized that a strong central gov was the only way for this country to survive threats foreign and abroad.
Exactly. The federal government was intended to be a force used to represent & support the States as a whole on the international level. It was not formed to tell the individual States what they can and cannot do.
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that is why when the Southern elected officials started seceding, then firing the first shot etc.
At a foreign army illegally occupying sovereign territory of the CSA.
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they were henceforth treated as traitors and will be remembered as traitors.
Only by authoritarians & people ignorant of Founding Fathers' intentions.
Posted on 8/14/17 at 8:20 pm to GeorgeWest
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(1) Because the Confederates fought to destroy the United States of America.
That is patently false. The South never expressed any desire to destroy the North or even force them to live under a government that did look out for their interests.
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(2) Most of those statues were erected as part of an informal program to glorify whites, and segregate blacks in the era 1880-1930. They were erected as acts of defiance and an attempt to whitewash/glorify the old Confederacy.
One of the reasons the statues were erected is because the North was systematically trying to destroy Southern culture and demonize the sacrifices made by the Southern fathers and grandfathers. They were partly erected so the Southerners could show their children and ancestors that they fought valiantly against a tyrannical government that promoted the lies they were being forced to teach in schools after the war.
They were also erected to remind people that even if you lose, fighting tyranny is a noble pursuit.
This post was edited on 8/14/17 at 8:27 pm
Posted on 8/14/17 at 8:26 pm to BulldogXero
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I don't think "we were in the wrong" for succeeding. That was once and should still be an option for any US state. The USA was always intended by the founders to be a voluntary union.
Too many people nowadays are simply too ignorant or too stubborn to accept this fact. The federal government tried to force the Southern states to do things that the government did not have the constitutional power to do. The Southern states then willfully withdrew from the Union that they voluntarily joined. The only traitors in the War Between the States were the Northerners that betrayed the Constitution. The Southerners were the ones actually defending the principles of the Constitution.
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