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re: Flight 93 National Memorial (Somerset County, PA)
Posted on 4/20/26 at 3:59 pm to Big Scrub TX
Posted on 4/20/26 at 3:59 pm to Big Scrub TX
Is the impact crater still there? Is there a marker at the actual point of impact?
I understand the plane was essentially almost vertical nose down at impact?
I understand the plane was essentially almost vertical nose down at impact?
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Posted on 4/20/26 at 4:00 pm to LuckyTiger
quote:I didn't see a crater, per se.
Is the impact crater still there?
quote:There's a huge boulder, yes.
Is there a marker at the actual point of impact?
quote:I think it was "only" 40 degrees.
I understand the plane was essentially almost vertical nose down at impact?
Posted on 4/20/26 at 4:10 pm to Big Scrub TX
That boulder is off-limits though, last I checked. You can see it but you can't get particularly close to it. (Correct me if wrong, I've never been myself but would really like to go someday.)
Posted on 4/20/26 at 4:13 pm to messyjesse
I could be wrong but I think I remember reading that only family members of the passengers are allowed to visit the boulder.
Posted on 4/20/26 at 4:21 pm to messyjesse
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The 17-ton sandstone boulder marks the exact edge of the impact site and the final resting place of the passengers and crew. Because the majority of the human remains are still interred in that field, the National Park Service maintains it as hallowed ground and a restricted cemetery.
Rules and Access
Restricted Zone: The impact site and the Hemlock Grove are completely closed to the general public. There is a low boundary wall and a ceremonial gate that separates the visitor path from the actual field of the crash.
Family Access Only: The only people permitted to enter the field or touch the boulder are the immediate family members of the 40 passengers and crew.
Viewing the Boulder: Visitors can view the boulder from the Memorial Plaza or through the Ceremonial Gate at the end of the Wall of Names. It is located roughly 150 yards away from the public walkway, so while it is visible, it is kept at a respectful distance to preserve the sanctity of the site.
The memorial is designed so that the Wall of Names and the walkway follow the actual flight path of the plane, leading your eyes directly to the boulder, which serves as a silent headstone for all those on board.
I felt bad for the NPS guys staffing the desk inside the visitor center. A very somber detail for sure.
Posted on 4/20/26 at 5:27 pm to Big Scrub TX
It’s profoundly disturbing how most Americans have totally forgotten what happened on 9/11 and what Radical Islam brought to our shores. I think about that often when I see or hear the current Mayor of New York City.
Posted on 4/20/26 at 5:28 pm to Big Scrub TX
Somebody should do a documentary and highlight the memorial they have there.
I could be wrong after all these years, but I think one of the heroes who confronted the hijackers said "Let's Roll!" right before they charged the cabin. They were like a real-life version of a fictional Hollywood film, but infinitely more profound.
I could be wrong after all these years, but I think one of the heroes who confronted the hijackers said "Let's Roll!" right before they charged the cabin. They were like a real-life version of a fictional Hollywood film, but infinitely more profound.
Posted on 4/20/26 at 5:32 pm to JasonDBlaha
I knew when we quickly saw the MSM mouthpieces take of their flag pins because they could not be bias towards the country whose "news" they reported that the fix was in.
How dare Americans feel good about their country. The MSM will not allow it.
How dare Americans feel good about their country. The MSM will not allow it.
Posted on 4/20/26 at 5:35 pm to KCT
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I could be wrong after all these years, but I think one of the heroes who confronted the hijackers said "Let's Roll!" right before they charged the cabin. They were like a real-life version of a fictional Hollywood film, but infinitely more profound.
You’re right - Neil Young wrote a song about it.
Posted on 4/20/26 at 5:38 pm to Big Scrub TX
Thanks for the heads-up, been meaning to see this. Will check it out on the way to Pittsburgh this summer.
Posted on 4/20/26 at 5:39 pm to KCT
There was a movie that came out in 2006 called Flight 93. It was very moving. Todd Beamer was the man who said, “Let’s Roll!” He died a hero.
Edit:
Apparently woke Wikipedia thinks Todd Beamer died in a random plane crash and not a deliberate act of Radical Islamic terrorism. How absolutely disgusting.
Edit:
Apparently woke Wikipedia thinks Todd Beamer died in a random plane crash and not a deliberate act of Radical Islamic terrorism. How absolutely disgusting.
quote:
Born: Nov 24, 1968, Flint, MI Died: Sep 11, 2001 (32 years), Stonycreek Township, PA
Cause of death: Aviation accident and incident
This post was edited on 4/20/26 at 5:41 pm
Posted on 4/20/26 at 6:45 pm to Riverside
quote:
Born: Nov 24, 1968, Flint, MI Died: Sep 11, 2001 (32 years), Stonycreek Township, PA
Cause of death: Aviation accident and incident
You're right. That's pathetic.
Posted on 4/20/26 at 7:50 pm to Riverside
It's even scarier that the ease of entry into this country by the 19 terrorists, many of whom came and went from the US multiple times despite all kinds of red flags, was a lesson largely unheeded, especially by the Biden administration.
Posted on 4/20/26 at 7:52 pm to JellyRoll
So have all nations in the West.
Asians are trying hard to resist.
Asians are trying hard to resist.
Posted on 4/20/26 at 8:51 pm to KCT
Honestly, this Wiki entry is as bad as Ilhan Omar saying that “some people did something” on 9/11. The more I think about it, the more pissed off it makes me.
The people on Flight 93 didn’t die in an aviation accident. They were intentionally murdered by Radical Islamic terrorists.
Edit:
It’s not Wikipedia but the Google AI that classifies this as an aviation accident. Why am I not surprised that Google’s AI thinks 9/11 was just an aviation incident. I despair.
The people on Flight 93 didn’t die in an aviation accident. They were intentionally murdered by Radical Islamic terrorists.
Edit:
It’s not Wikipedia but the Google AI that classifies this as an aviation accident. Why am I not surprised that Google’s AI thinks 9/11 was just an aviation incident. I despair.
This post was edited on 4/20/26 at 8:57 pm
Posted on 4/20/26 at 9:00 pm to Big Scrub TX
It’s in a beautiful part of the state, and a nice memorial. I was in the Air Force Reserves, 911th Airlift Wing, based at Pittsburgh International Airport and they had us out there to support the response on 911 handling aeromedical response. Really tough few days being there.
Lighter side of things, Fallingwater and Kentuck Knob are both in Somerset county, if you like Frank Lloyd Wright architecture, Fallingwater is one of his masterpieces. The Youghiogheny (The Yock) goes through there and there are some nice trails and riverside towns like Confluence that are there. Overall a nice place to spend a weekend. We used to get out there fairly often. There are a couple of ski resorts there as well. Hidden Valley and Seven Springs. Both have some spring and summer activities if interested.
If you need any specific recommendations for there or Pittsburgh, just ask.
Lighter side of things, Fallingwater and Kentuck Knob are both in Somerset county, if you like Frank Lloyd Wright architecture, Fallingwater is one of his masterpieces. The Youghiogheny (The Yock) goes through there and there are some nice trails and riverside towns like Confluence that are there. Overall a nice place to spend a weekend. We used to get out there fairly often. There are a couple of ski resorts there as well. Hidden Valley and Seven Springs. Both have some spring and summer activities if interested.
If you need any specific recommendations for there or Pittsburgh, just ask.
This post was edited on 4/20/26 at 9:01 pm
Posted on 4/20/26 at 10:52 pm to Big Scrub TX
Thank you.
Thought I would add this map that I found illustrative.
So the plane came from the upper right and impacted the ground right in front of the boulder. And that field in front of and around the boulder, along with the grove behind it, was a wreckage field that still contains human remains.
Thought I would add this map that I found illustrative.
So the plane came from the upper right and impacted the ground right in front of the boulder. And that field in front of and around the boulder, along with the grove behind it, was a wreckage field that still contains human remains.
Posted on 4/20/26 at 10:53 pm to Big Scrub TX
Those people on that plane were true heroes, courageous to the end. May they rest in peace.
Posted on 4/20/26 at 11:49 pm to RolltidePA
quote:Thanks, man. I was in and out of the state in just 48 hours, but would definitely love to see Fallingwater one day.
It’s in a beautiful part of the state, and a nice memorial. I was in the Air Force Reserves, 911th Airlift Wing, based at Pittsburgh International Airport and they had us out there to support the response on 911 handling aeromedical response. Really tough few days being there.
Lighter side of things, Fallingwater and Kentuck Knob are both in Somerset county, if you like Frank Lloyd Wright architecture, Fallingwater is one of his masterpieces. The Youghiogheny (The Yock) goes through there and there are some nice trails and riverside towns like Confluence that are there. Overall a nice place to spend a weekend. We used to get out there fairly often. There are a couple of ski resorts there as well. Hidden Valley and Seven Springs. Both have some spring and summer activities if interested.
If you need any specific recommendations for there or Pittsburgh, just ask.
Any other experiences you could share about your service around 9-11 I'm sure would be welcomed by those in this thread. Obviously, no pressure.
Posted on 4/20/26 at 11:50 pm to LuckyTiger
quote:
Thought I would add this map that I found illustrative.
Thank you. The Wall of Names is definitely undersold in that schematic - it is breathtaking in person. Reminded me a bit of the Culloden Battlefield monument in Scotland.
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