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re: FISA IG report IN-GAME thread (JUST RELEASED)
Posted on 12/9/19 at 1:10 pm to sms151t
Posted on 12/9/19 at 1:10 pm to sms151t
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So what exactly is being released that we didn’t seemingly know?
i don't think all the information about the tomfoolery with Carter Page's FISA applications was truly known until today
same with his association with the CIA. we all speculated he was working with them, but now it's confirmed
quote:
Are there any civil or criminal issues that need to be handled by a real court not the elected body playing court
there are some people who are going to have to answer questions as to their artistic use of omitting pertinent information as well as including questionable information, as well as a clear understanding of what superiors knew (and when they knew it)
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Posted on 12/9/19 at 1:10 pm to cajunangelle
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Oh and Hannity will be on this and have on Graham so Graham can BS. And then they will all talk about their books they wrote and Q people will say wait two more years they have it all. It is all quite sad
Senators from both parties participated in the influence process and part of those influence priorities was exploiting the financial opportunities within Ukraine while simultaneously protecting Joe Biden and his family. This is where Senator John McCain and Senator Lindsey Graham were working with Marie Yovanovitch.
I am amazed anyone here isn't out back sharpening their pitchfork tines.
Anons knew this two years ago.
Posted on 12/9/19 at 1:12 pm to Snipe
Posted on 12/9/19 at 1:12 pm to Dale51
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As described in Chapter Three, immediately after opening the investigation, the iv Crossfire Hurricane team submitted name trace requests to other U.S. government agencies and a foreign intelligence agency, and conducted law enforcement database and open source searches, to identify individuals associated with the Trump campaign in a position to have received the alleged offer of assistance from Russia.
Would that have been the Ukraine connection?
Politico
Posted on 12/9/19 at 1:14 pm to DallasTiger11
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Yet somehow there's no bias.
It's akin to a 1950's Mississippi jury declaring white men innocent in the face of all the evidence to the contrary. The outcomes are predetermined just like wrasslin. Nobody will be held accountable because our country is a banana republic.
Posted on 12/9/19 at 1:15 pm to SlowFlowPro
Thank you SFP
Posted on 12/9/19 at 1:17 pm to sms151t
quote:
So what exactly is being released that we didn’t seemingly know?
Let's be honest, we didn't know a lot of this this but rather we assumed it.
This is concrete proof of:
-the Woods Procedure not being followed
-exculpatory evidence being withheld from the FISA applications
-ignoring of Page's Russian contacts being due to his work with the CIA
-the FBI stating Steele did not leak to Yahoo news but did not actually even attempt to investigate that
-heavily relying on the Steele Dossier
-not informing FISA of Steele's anti-Trump bias
etc.
There's "knowing" something and there's knowing something. The IG's report firmly moves this information from the prior category to the latter.
Posted on 12/9/19 at 1:23 pm to Bard
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Later in the conversation, Source 2 asked Papadopoulos directly whether help "from a third party like WikiLeaks for example or some other third party like the Russians, could be incredibly helpful" in securing a campaign victory. Papadopoulos responded:
Well as a campaign, of course, we don't advocate for this type of activity because at the end of the day it's, ah, illegal. First and foremost it compromises the US national security and third it sets a very bad precedence [sic].... So the campaign does not advocate for this, does not support what is happening. The indirect consequences are out of our hands.... [F]or example, our campaign is not. .. engag[ing] or reaching out to wiki leaks or to the whoever it is to tell them please work with us, collaborate because we don't, no one does that.... Unless there's something going on that I don't know which I don't because I don't think anybody would risk their, their life, ah, potentially going to prison over doing something like that. Um ... because at the end of the day, you know, it's an illegal, it's an illegal activity. Espionage is, ah, treason. This is a form of treason .... I mean that's why, you know, it became a very big issue when Mr. Trump said, "Russia if you're listening .... " Do you remember? ... And you know we had to retract it because, of course, he didn't mean for
them to actively engage in espionage but the media then took and ran with it
Posted on 12/9/19 at 1:23 pm to cajunangelle
Guess I missed it, CA. Gladly. Will be interesting to see how Graham answers this. 
Posted on 12/9/19 at 1:25 pm to Bunyan
No political bias with stroke and page text messages. Talk about piss down my back and tell me its raining.
Posted on 12/9/19 at 1:28 pm to UncleD7734
And now we know how these government servants get filthy rich whilst “serving”.
Posted on 12/9/19 at 1:30 pm to Bass Tiger
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We had a Chinese spy on Finestein's staff for 20 years, muslims foreigners working for the DNC in their IT department doing all kinds of shady shite.....no wonder the FBI is so inept...they're too busy protecting the Swamp and setting traps for anyone who threatens the DC status quo.
^^^THIS^^^
Posted on 12/9/19 at 1:32 pm to UncleD7734
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No political bias with stroke and page text messages. Talk about piss down my back and tell me its raining.
That stuck out to me as egregious crap.
Documented facts don't matter, only opinions do.
Posted on 12/9/19 at 1:34 pm to Bunyan
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Later in the conversation, Source 2 asked Papadopoulos directly whether help "from a third party like WikiLeaks for example or some other third party like the Russians, could be incredibly helpful" in securing a campaign victory. Papadopoulos responded:
Well as a campaign, of course, we don't advocate for this type of activity because at the end of the day it's, ah, illegal. First and foremost it compromises the US national security and third it sets a very bad precedence [sic].... So the campaign does not advocate for this, does not support what is happening. The indirect consequences are out of our hands.... [F]or example, our campaign is not. .. engag[ing] or reaching out to wiki leaks or to the whoever it is to tell them please work with us, collaborate because we don't, no one does that.... Unless there's something going on that I don't know which I don't because I don't think anybody would risk their, their life, ah, potentially going to prison over doing something like that. Um ... because at the end of the day, you know, it's an illegal, it's an illegal activity. Espionage is, ah, treason. This is a form of treason .... I mean that's why, you know, it became a very big issue when Mr. Trump said, "Russia if you're listening .... " Do you remember? ... And you know we had to retract it because, of course, he didn't mean for
them to actively engage in espionage but the media then took and ran with it
I'm guessing that was left of out FISA applications, CH meetings, etc as well.
Posted on 12/9/19 at 1:35 pm to sms151t
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Thank you SFP
Posted on 12/9/19 at 1:38 pm to Dale51
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That stuck out to me as egregious crap.
Documented facts don't matter, only opinions do.
The report acknowledges that Page and Strzok were compromised but explained ultimately the decision to investigate was made by Strzok's boss. They did not find evidence that political bias or improper motivation influenced Priestap's decision.
No more, no less.
ETA: This conclusion does not mean that political bias did not exist. Rather, it means that they did not find explicit evidence of political bias influencing the person responsible for making the decision to investigate.
This post was edited on 12/9/19 at 1:44 pm
Posted on 12/9/19 at 1:42 pm to southdowns84
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They did not find evidence that political bias or improper motivation influenced Priestap's decision.
"Well...that's just, like their opinion, man."
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You cannot prove a persons motivation or bias. It's simply opinion.
Posted on 12/9/19 at 1:42 pm to UncleD7734
Horowitz is merely "what happened"
Durham is "why" and "how" it happened
investigating intent/motive/method etc are Durham's job
Durham is "why" and "how" it happened
investigating intent/motive/method etc are Durham's job
Posted on 12/9/19 at 1:47 pm to supatigah
yeah i mean this report deals more with the institutional issues within the FBI alone. clearly there are more agencies in play since Downer/Mifsud were international AND the IG cannot get too much into the "why" as you said
Posted on 12/9/19 at 1:50 pm to supatigah
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Horowitz is merely "what happened"
Durham is "why" and "how" it happened
investigating intent/motive/method etc are Durham's job
So far, what has been reviled as having "happened" that Durham would investigate "why" and "how" of?
Just curious.
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