re: First in my lifetime

Yeah, was more talking about day-to-day life. SoDak, Iowa, Nebraska, the area I live in was disrupted a little at first but things were normal here. When I traveled to Minnesota, Colorado, Wisconsin, and Michigan, it was very different.

I have friends in Minnesota and Michigan with kids and those kids lives were seriously impacted by the stupid COVID policies. Life changing. It's really sad the impact it had on them.

Nationwide inflation F'd US all, and we're still paying for it. But the decisions of the governors who shut down their states, and especially what they did to their kids, it's criminal.

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the two major economic downturns occurred during the presidencies of George W. Bush (the Great Recession)

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As it turned out, artificially low interest rates for a decade under Greenspan, and Bush’s promise to make housing affordable for everyone, was neither conservative nor economically sound.

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Donald Trump (the Pandemic Recession

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Trump’s worst mistake by far in his first presidency was listening to “experts” like Fauci and Birx who really thought closing down the economy and any semblance of society for an extended period of time was wise. Let’s face it, Covid was way overblown and we are still dealing with the consequences of the shutdowns, 4 years later. The whole 15 days to slow the spread thing was one of the most catastrophically stupid policies ever promoted.

Overall, though, the argument that an economy is worse or better off because of a President is pretty shallow. The Federal Reserve is what really manages the economy, and the board is nominated by the President and approved by the Senate for a fixed term. They set the conditions for interest rates to be manipulated, thus causing distortions and bubbles in the economy. Fiscal policy can play a part, but it is all facilitated by the Fed and their control over the money supply. If I’m Trump, I do three things -
1. Get Jerome Powell out immediately
2. Get behind a bill to audit the Fed
3. Set up a commission on money and gold like we had in the 1980s with Lewis Lehrman and Ron Paul

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Whoa. I’m a late Gex X and I don’t think I have anything in common with millennials or later generations. The first presidential election I remember watching was Reagan when I was 6 years old. Clinton’s 1st term was the first time I was eligible to vote. I clearly remember those times.

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My bad. I put x instead of z. Corrected that in my post.
Sorry for the misunderstanding there.
Especially since I'm Gen x too

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Another note--throughout President Biden’s tenure, the US economy has shown resilience, notably outperforming all other countries in its recovery from the global pandemic.

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We outperformed other countries because our economic system is still the best. Sure, we have too many regulations and need to make changes, but we haven't collapsed. Biden had nothing to do with the rebound of our economy.
Well, he sure increased the revenue of the MIC!
There's that....
Biden is responsible for the economy down turning as much as it did. Biden kept the lockdown going way way too long.

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Historical data indicates that the US economy has often demonstrated stronger performance under Democratic administrations. While most here will dispute this perspective and chalk it up to fake news, the fact remains that in my life time, the two major economic downturns occurred during the presidencies of George W. Bush (the Great Recession) and Donald Trump (the Pandemic Recession). Furthermore, of the 11 recessions in the modern era, 10 commenced under Republican presidents.

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It's like you don't understand that the consequences of poor decisions and actions take time to rear their ugly heads.

GWB's great recession was caused by Bill Clinton's ignorant housing policies which caused the bubble.

The pandemic isn't even comparable to true policy based economic downturns. So attaching that to Trump is stupid and I would have said the same thing if Hillary was in office.

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My bad. I put x instead of z. Corrected that in my post.
Sorry for the misunderstanding there.
Especially since I'm Gen x too


Yeah. I figured it was a typo bc it didn’t even make sense after I thought about your point

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Hahaha yeah. A really silly mistake on my part. Appreciate the understanding

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At best, it's a problem from the intellectual and academic communities.
As I posted back on another comment, they're literally lying about history to these students, from an activist viewpoint.
And since kids have no idea what really happened, they don't know it for the lie.

But yeah. I'm glad to see that he's at least paying attention.

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This is exactly why we focused so heavily on logic and critical thinking with our son his entire life. He was never just told an answer without first bringing him through the thought process that got us there. He has never given us a viewpoint that wasn’t critically challenged to determine if it was thought through or simply parroted. I lost my first debate to him when he was 10. I’ve lost a few since then.

My point is that the only way to truly inoculate your kids against this type of academic dishonesty is to teach them to challenge everything intellectually. It freaked sucked as a parenting technique bc it was exhausting and I feel like I’m not getting our moneys worth with him just going for a business degree when he clearly should go into law.

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OK paw paw.

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The same the likes of you and too many others apparently supported and allowed.

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He was 12 in 2000.

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The Bush administration warned the democrat congress 17 times about the pending problems and people like Greg Meeks and Barney Frank laughed it off.

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Yep, I distinctly remember Bush warning about the looming housing bubble and the Democrats said he just didn't want black people to own homes.

The OP knows this to, he's just talking out of his arse