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re: few things don't pass the smell test about the crash
Posted on 2/1/25 at 1:24 am to carguymatt
Posted on 2/1/25 at 1:24 am to carguymatt
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1. not releasing the third name operating the helicopter.
2. ATC had one person doing 2 jobs b/c a co-worker left for the night
3. helicopter being at 400 feet when the limit was 200
Not pissing on you. I wear a tinfoil hat a lot.
1. Family doesn't want the name of their child put out because he or she made a mistake and killed 67 people. It is going to come out anyway so no reason for a coverup.
2. ATC have been short staffed ever since 911. I know a guy that was working during 911 as it happened. He worked 18 hours a day and didn't get to go home for three weeks.
3. People do things wrong that cause accidents... otherwise there would not be accidents. IDK but maybe the 400ft was because they were trying to avoid the plane. As in trying to take maneuvers (not in a panic) to take their craft out of harms way and accidentally did just the opposite.
IDK what happened I am not trying to convince anyone in either direction. My only point is it could be either and everyone here should recognize that with the facts we have that both scenarios fit.
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Posted on 2/1/25 at 8:12 am to Nurbis
Ahh…Thanks for clarifying!
Posted on 2/1/25 at 8:16 am to omegaman66
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with the facts we have that both scenarios fit.
As someone in the field, this was not JUST a mistake made. This, again, was VFR weather, clear as can be, at night, when aircraft can be seen for MILES. The pilot had already radioed visual on the jet. The pilot had been cleared to land, based upon visual of the jet. This was not ATC. While they have their problems, this was completely on the Pilot....they were operating under Visual Flight Rules. This was either gross incompetence, or intentional. It wasn't just a mistake. It wasn't a congested scene. Sorry.
Posted on 2/1/25 at 8:29 am to carguymatt
I love a good conspiracy, but yall are making way to much of this.
Posted on 2/1/25 at 8:33 am to carguymatt
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not releasing the third name operating the helicopter.
2. ATC had one person doing 2 jobs b/c a co-worker left for the night
3. helicopter being at 400 feet when the limit was 200
I think what we’ll find is a chain of incompetence that is permeating anything and everything to do with the Federal govt is what led to this tragedy.
Posted on 2/1/25 at 8:36 am to SouthEasternKaiju
I’ve not seen anything about a “trans pilot from a reliable source…
Posted on 2/1/25 at 8:51 am to VOR
Has an official source even said there was a female onboard?
Posted on 2/1/25 at 8:59 am to Mandtgr47
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This was either gross incompetence, or intentional. It wasn't just a mistake. It wasn't a congested scene. Sorry.
1000%
Anyone with any flight experience would say the same thing
This post was edited on 2/1/25 at 9:00 am
Posted on 2/1/25 at 9:16 am to VOR
Read my post. I was talking about "Jo", the trans UH-60 pilot from the VA AR who was wrongly presented to social media as the mystery pilot, but who has since come out (so to say) revealing it's not him.
Posted on 2/1/25 at 9:48 am to RDOtiger
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I watched a video that claimed to have the voice recording from ATC. The controller asked the helicopter crew if they “had a visual on the CRJ.” That’s it. The controller didn’t clarify by stating “incoming.” There was another outgoing flight that the crew misidentified as the CRJ. Not sure if this is true, but if it is, then this points to failures by the military, the helo crew, and ATC.
Watch the video. The helo had clear view of both planes, landing lights on, from a MILE out. You have a huge field of view from that distance, you couldn’t NOT see BOTH planes in their field of view. Clear night sky in the background.
Posted on 2/1/25 at 10:11 am to SquatchDawg
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I think what we’ll find is a chain of incompetence that is permeating anything and everything to do with the Federal govt is what led to this tragedy.
A very likely scenario Chewy.
Posted on 2/1/25 at 10:14 am to SouthEasternKaiju
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Read my post. I was talking about "Jo", the trans UH-60 pilot from the VA AR who was wrongly presented to social media as the mystery pilot, but who has since come out (so to say) revealing it's not him.
You know the rules.
Most of you "wood".
Posted on 2/1/25 at 10:21 am to LSUbest
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You know the rules
Posted on 2/1/25 at 10:25 am to SouthEasternKaiju
Posted on 2/1/25 at 10:50 am to SouthEasternKaiju
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A transgender helicopter pilot was forced to respond after she was falsely identified as the captain of the Black Hawk that crashed in Washington, D.C.
Jo Ellis has served in the Virginia National Guard for 15 years and on Friday found herself the subject of thousands of false social media posts claiming that she was the third crew member aboard the helicopter that collided with the passenger jet, carrying 64 people.
She resorted to posting a “proof of life” video on Facebook to stop the baseless rumors.
“Jo Ellis” was trending on X on Friday morning and there were more than 90,000 posts spewing the false claims, The New York Times reports.
The Independent
Posted on 2/1/25 at 10:51 am to Nolalakeview
OK. And?
Posted on 2/1/25 at 11:01 am to SouthEasternKaiju
Your previous post:
I replied to you that Jo Ellis is alive, so he was not the pilot.
quote:
Read my post. I was talking about "Jo", the trans UH-60 pilot from the VA AR who was wrongly presented to social media as the mystery pilot, but who has since come out (so to say) revealing it's not him.
I replied to you that Jo Ellis is alive, so he was not the pilot.
Posted on 2/1/25 at 11:03 am to Nolalakeview
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I replied to you that Jo Ellis is alive, so he was not the pilot.
I said exactly that in my post.
Posted on 2/1/25 at 11:07 am to SouthEasternKaiju
Yes, you did. There are still others out there that still believe it was this person.
Posted on 2/1/25 at 11:49 am to Mandtgr47
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This was either gross incompetence, or intentional. It wasn't just a mistake. It wasn't a congested scene. Sorry.
You just said what I said. It could be intentional, it could be an accident. Your post is an attempt at proving me wrong and you quote above is exactly what I was saying.
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