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re: Feud between The Daily Wire and Steven Crowder goes public...
Posted on 1/19/23 at 7:09 am to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 1/19/23 at 7:09 am to SlowFlowPro
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SlowFlowPro
Ever notice how many responses you get from people when you post 20-30 posts in a thirty minute time span?
It isn't much btw.
Calm down and use your words.
Quality over quantity, buddy. Deep breaths.
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Posted on 1/19/23 at 7:10 am to SlowFlowPro
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This has been the situation with content creators since the reaction to Charlottesville.
Anything based on "the reaction to Charlottesville" is pure evil and should be avoided at all costs.
Nothing that came from 'the reaction to Charlottesville' was/is good. That is the kss of death to me for anything based on it.
It was the opening line for why we have Biden in office today - everything after that turned to shite. Literally said is "why he decided to run for POTUS." pure evil bullshite.
Posted on 1/19/23 at 7:12 am to RollTide1987
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- Crowder would retain the rights to all of the content he made BEFORE joining The Daily Wire but would not hold the rights to the content he created afterwards
- He would be allowed to bring in his own staff but would have to pay them out of pocket
- His pay would be deducted if he ended up being banned from YouTube, Spotify, Apple, or any other website where Daily Wire content is hosted.
I don't see the point of joining a group that owns your content, makes you pay for your staff, and won't stand up and fight for you against censorship. Stay independent and do all of that yourself.
Sounds like DW just threw all the crap out there to negotiate from their end.
Anyone know why he's leaving the blaze?
Posted on 1/19/23 at 7:17 am to KAGTASTIC
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I don't see the point of joining a group that owns your content, makes you pay for your staff, and won't stand up and fight for you against censorship. Stay independent and do all of that yourself.
I’m guessing the point is the $50 million.
Posted on 1/19/23 at 7:18 am to RollTide1987
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- His pay would be deducted if he ended up being banned from YouTube, Spotify, Apple, or any other website where Daily Wire content is hosted.
Pay determined by something he has no control over.
Nope, bad deal.
Posted on 1/19/23 at 7:22 am to GumboPot
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He gives the TL/DR version of the contract and the T&Cs that were the deal breaker.
a. I am pretty sure he's not a lawyer
b. EVEN ASSUMING THIS IS TRUE, this is where Crowder gets to negotiate.
Posted on 1/19/23 at 7:23 am to Errerrerrwere
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Ever notice how many responses you get from people when you post 20-30 posts in a thirty minute time span?
I don't keep up with that (or up/down votes)
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Calm down and use your words.
Quality over quantity, buddy. Deep breaths.
I do both
This board doesn't really respond well to original long form content anymore. I focus on responding directly to posts, because this board also can't keep on track and eliminating diversion paths is important.
Posted on 1/19/23 at 7:24 am to ChineseBandit58
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Anything based on "the reaction to Charlottesville" is pure evil and should be avoided at all costs.
Who is forcing Crowder to rely on Big Tech to make a living?
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Nothing that came from 'the reaction to Charlottesville' was/is good. That is the kss of death to me for anything based on it.
Again, then you should be criticizing Crowder for lowering himself to rely on this reaction you hate for his extravagant salary.
Posted on 1/19/23 at 7:25 am to KAGTASTIC
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Stay independent and do all of that yourself.
Clearly Crowder can't make as much money with this route.
Posted on 1/19/23 at 7:26 am to RollTide1987
I don't see anything unreasonable in those terms.
Posted on 1/19/23 at 7:31 am to jnethe1
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Pay determined by something he has no control over.
Nope, bad deal.
He literally chose, not only an industry, but a delivery method within that industry, that is completely reliant on revenue generated by third parties he has no control over.
Posted on 1/19/23 at 7:34 am to MasterDigger
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The contract says that the third party gets to decide his pay if they don't like what he says???
Well, yeah.
Posted on 1/19/23 at 7:34 am to RollTide1987
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Now he's airing this offer to the public and accusing The Daily Wire of being a shill for big tech.
Political pundits are nothing but grifters, and would pull for the other side if it were profitable.
Their interest is profits, not ideology.
Posted on 1/19/23 at 7:36 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Political pundits are nothing but grifters, and would pull for the other side if it were profitable.
Their interest is profits, not ideology.
Correct.
This applies more to "Crossovers" like Tim Pool, as well.
Posted on 1/19/23 at 7:37 am to RollTide1987
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His pay would be deducted if he ended up being banned from YouTube, Spotify, Apple, or any other website where Daily Wire content is hosted.
So DW got to play good cop while it rolled over to let YouTube police its content. That’s pretty sketchy.
YouTube has banned Stephen Crowder about 100 times.
He should have countered on just this point, and said he wanted that item removed or no deal. If I were advising him, that’s what I would tell him to do. If they refused then you go have your little temper tantrum.
Regardless- I would accept half the compensation if DW needs someone to blab about their political opinions.
The real question is - what was wrong with the blaze?
Posted on 1/19/23 at 7:37 am to jnethe1
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Pay determined by something he has no control over.
Nope, bad deal.
And as an independent, Crowder's revenue is already determined by this same exact factor.
All content creators have to deal with this. Even non-political content creators have to go out of their way and contort their content to conform to YouTube's esoteric guidelines or risk demonetization.
Conservative media like Daily Wire already walk a line on platforms like YouTube where they put their self-censored "lite" content on YouTube and their more controversial stuff on more accepting platforms. It's a calculated risk, factoring in revenue and eyeballs gained from being on platforms like YouTube. Crowder wants a license to say and do as he pleases wherever he pleases, which would be awesome for any content creator, but he wants Daily Wire to absorb all of the financial risks associated with doing so. That's just not realistic from a business perspective.
But he's perfectly free to walk from the deal if he thinks he can do better himself. I don't get the whining about it.
Posted on 1/19/23 at 7:43 am to Wednesday
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The real question is - what was wrong with the blaze?
If I had to guess, they don't feel his salary is worth the revenue anymore. Also this DW stuff happened a few months ago and Crowder doesn't appear to have taken any other offers, but there may not be any. What other outlets will pay $10M/year? How many outlets CAN pay $10M/year?
Posted on 1/19/23 at 7:43 am to RollTide1987
I guess I am naive because I don't see why he needs either Blaze or Daily Wire.
Posted on 1/19/23 at 7:43 am to GhostOfFreedom
Because 50M
Posted on 1/19/23 at 7:46 am to GhostOfFreedom
Hes never been fully independent. Hes always had someone bankrolling.
Half the problem with his non-negotiation with DW was that he truly didnt even know what kind of numbers his show pulls for the blaze. They dont give him the numbers, so he has no idea his mug club sub count.
Its pretty hard to figure a value for what you have in that circumstance. Much less wanting it all guaranteed, and more than twice as much being offered.
Half the problem with his non-negotiation with DW was that he truly didnt even know what kind of numbers his show pulls for the blaze. They dont give him the numbers, so he has no idea his mug club sub count.
Its pretty hard to figure a value for what you have in that circumstance. Much less wanting it all guaranteed, and more than twice as much being offered.
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