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re: Feud between The Daily Wire and Steven Crowder goes public...
Posted on 1/19/23 at 8:10 am to jnethe1
Posted on 1/19/23 at 8:10 am to jnethe1
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Ok, so everyone who doesn’t present the narrative that big tech wants needs to find another career?
Do you think he's special and should be catered to within his chosen career field?
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Posted on 1/19/23 at 8:10 am to jnethe1
quote:only a child would think that he should receive $50 million, if he says something so stupid as to get himself demonetized.
so everyone who doesn’t present the narrative that big tech wants needs to find another career?
Where does he think the money will come from? Why should his employer pay him, if he himself caused the revenue stream to end?
Posted on 1/19/23 at 8:10 am to msutiger
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I'm on the fence on this one, because I see both sides. It is easy to hammer the Daily Wire and say they are bending to Big Tech, but in the end, they still have a business to run. They can't afford to pay someone $50 million dollars and then that person get banned on every platform.
At the same time, with this contract out in the open, it invites Big Tech to really clamp down on the DW hosts knowing they have a lot of incentive to bend.
I think the idea that DW is speaking for Big Tech is a bit ridiculous. Matt Walsh and Michael Knowles don't hold back at all, while I'm just waiting for Andrew Klavan to be hauled off to a re-education camp while on-set.
Pretty much my take as well. Sadly, this is the nature of using these various streaming services as your de facto cable access. They all lean heavily Left and weed out Right leaning content. I understand why DW doesn't want to/can't simply pay creators who are not generating revenue if they get yanked, but at the same time there is 100% chance these services know the terms of these contracts and can use them to keep creators in line...which DOES in a round about way have DW doing the bidding of Big Tech.
The alternative would be for places like DW to set up their own, independent streaming services outside of Google/YouTube and host it all off of their servers and not be beholden to their whims. Steven knows this, as he's be demonetized for years now and it's why he's got that subscription deal.
Posted on 1/19/23 at 8:12 am to wutangfinancial
Sure thing
Posted on 1/19/23 at 8:18 am to GeauxTigerTM
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The alternative would be for places like DW to set up their own, independent streaming services outside of Google/YouTube and host it all off of their servers and not be beholden to their whims. Steven knows this, as he's be demonetized for years now and it's why he's got that subscription deal.
They do have their own streaming service. I have it on Roku and my phone. It’s how you watch “what is a woman” biggest lie, or “terror on the Prarie” etc.
The problem is that Spotify, pandora, youtube, etc. are all additional revenue bases currently on top of their own service.
So even if Crowder got struck by YouTube, he could continue to release content on their app. However, him getting struck would be millions lost in revenue from the outside streams.
As much as I can like Crowder, he does edgelord shite that is sometime asking for it.
This post was edited on 1/19/23 at 8:19 am
Posted on 1/19/23 at 8:18 am to LSUnation78
Do some simple back napkin math you moron. Maddow gets paid $25M/year for 1 weekly show that may get 250k views a week. I'm not the one that is overpaying for his comps. He'd be a moron to work for somebody else.
Posted on 1/19/23 at 8:21 am to AUCom96
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It pretty much sounds like a purposeful insult.
Much like I’m ok with a college exploiting my kids for their athletic prowess with a scholarship, you can purposely insult me for $75mm.
Also, if you’re worried about being muzzled, you need to question what you’re saying.
Matt Walsh told the entire world to suck his dick and die in a fire when they tried to cancel him with his old shock jock routine and twist his statement about fertility into saying he supported child brides. Not in those words but if they’re going to let him get away with what he said, Crowder shouldn’t be worried.
This post was edited on 1/19/23 at 8:26 am
Posted on 1/19/23 at 8:21 am to wutangfinancial
Your big brain sure showed me.
Flawless logic
Flawless logic
Posted on 1/19/23 at 8:28 am to SlowFlowPro
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Uh...if you are in the business of relying on ads for revenue, you're going to bend the knee or do it for free
And you are ok with that?
Posted on 1/19/23 at 8:29 am to Wednesday
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The real question is - what was wrong with the blaze?
It's my understanding is the blaze contract expired and the blaze was making most of the money from his Mug Club subscribers.
Now he's independent and airing his grievances to his audience and stoking controversy because, well, that's what he does for a living.
But he does make a good point. BigCon in collusion with BigTech does narrow the spectrum of conservative speech to what is acceptable. This is done with media companies like Daily Wire, The Blaze, Fox News, Prager, etc. I mean Fox News does not allow Tucker to talk about the stolen 2020 election.
The good news alternative media companies like Rumble are growing and growing fast.
Posted on 1/19/23 at 8:30 am to DisplacedBuckeye
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He could always learn a trade.
Ok, but this is more than just crowder’s ability to make a living. This is about silencing any narrative that is not deemed worthy.
Posted on 1/19/23 at 8:30 am to jnethe1
quote:What is the alternative?
Uh...if you are in the business of relying on ads for revenue, you're going to bend the knee or do it for freequote:
And you are ok with that?
I suppose that Crowder could always work for free
Posted on 1/19/23 at 8:31 am to jnethe1
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Ok, but this is more than just crowder’s ability to make a living. This is about silencing any narrative that is not deemed worthy.
Do you think YouTube should be forced to pay Crowder, regardless of what he says on their platform?
Posted on 1/19/23 at 8:31 am to LSUnation78
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He could learn to code and make his own youtubes
So instead of allowing all opinions on the same playing field, we must push all dissenting opinions into a different platform a so as to not allow any wrong-think?
This post was edited on 1/19/23 at 8:32 am
Posted on 1/19/23 at 8:32 am to DisplacedBuckeye
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Do you think he's special and should be catered to within his chosen career field?
I said anyone, so that would remove the idea that he would be special.
Posted on 1/19/23 at 8:33 am to jnethe1
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Ok, so everyone who doesn’t present the narrative that big tech wants needs to find another career?
If you haven't noticed, the ladies are all in on bigcorp these days.
They know where their soft cushy life comes from.
Posted on 1/19/23 at 8:34 am to msutiger
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I think the idea that DW is speaking for Big Tech is a bit ridiculous. Matt Walsh and Michael Knowles don't hold back at all, while I'm just waiting for Andrew Klavan to be hauled off to a re-education camp while on-set.
Are DW content providers allowed to discuss the 2020 election fraud? IDK because I'm not a DW customer.
Posted on 1/19/23 at 8:35 am to GumboPot
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I mean Fox News does not allow Tucker to talk about the stolen 2020 election.
I realize Tucker is making bank at Fox, but I'm actually kind of stunned he hasn't jumped ship to start his own thing yet. I mean, he does his show from his house already...
Posted on 1/19/23 at 8:35 am to CDawson
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Know how I know you know nothing about business?
Entertainers are our beloved royalty.
Well, you guys should never complain about the prices of game tickets and team apparel ever again or $30 parking or $8 hot dogs or $12 beer or $500 concert tickets.
So we good then. I don't want to see another complaint about prices of shite on this site again.
Yeah, I know how business works. Adverstisers will be paying him that salary. I like Crowder. I watch a lot of his videos, and not $.01 will be coming out of my pocket to pay him.
And also, why make a complaint thread on the parameters of this job opportunity? He was offered a deal, he doesn't have to take it. Seems pretty cut and dry. This is what the PT has taught us.
This post was edited on 1/19/23 at 8:54 am
Posted on 1/19/23 at 8:35 am to AggieHank86
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only a child would think that he should receive $50 million, if he says something so stupid as to get himself demonetized.
It’s not about the money, it’s about the ability for him to lose revenue based on something he can’t control. We have seen companies banning people for saying there are two genders. Based on that, there is no possible way to say he controls his own situation.
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