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re: Felony Hate Crime for making fun of someone's clothes?

Posted on 3/5/23 at 1:06 pm to
Posted by LRB1967
Tennessee
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Posted on 3/5/23 at 1:06 pm to
Not a deity...a leader. Hard concept for those of limited intellect to understand.
Posted by cyarrr
Prairieville
Member since Jun 2017
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Posted on 3/5/23 at 1:07 pm to
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It will make saying anything about someone's dress illegal. According to the law. That's what the law says. Are you back on the side of intent again?


It’s a bill not a law, and what I read stated it enhances certain crimes such as property destruction when motivated by hate.

I skimmed the article and bill but missed any reference about making fun of how somebody dresses and it being a felony.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 3/5/23 at 1:10 pm to
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I skimmed the article and bill but missed any reference about making fun of how somebody dresses and it being a felony.
They are saying that low-hanging pants and exposed boxers are a form of ethnic attire and that any negative reference to said ... costume ... will get the speaker arrested for a hate crime.

Without a clear statutory definition of "ethnic attire," they actually may have a point as the bill now stands. It is NOT well-drafted.
This post was edited on 3/5/23 at 1:18 pm
Posted by Jack Carter
Member since Sep 2018
12200 posts
Posted on 3/5/23 at 1:11 pm to
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This is about people wearing clothes often associated with their culture or religion. Pan African, Jamaican, etc


So what?
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 3/5/23 at 1:13 pm to
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This is about people wearing clothes often associated with their culture or religion. Pan African, Jamaican, etc
quote:

So what?

No one with a modicum of decorum would harass a person for wearing traditional attire. But the question is whether boorishness should lead to criminal prosecution.

It should not, IMO.
This post was edited on 3/5/23 at 1:18 pm
Posted by Gaggle
Member since Oct 2021
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Posted on 3/5/23 at 1:15 pm to


"Or interferes with another person's quiet enjoyment"
Saying something.
Posted by Timeoday
Easter Island
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Posted on 3/5/23 at 1:16 pm to
1st Amendment says hello!
Posted by TigerOnTheMountain
Higher Elevation
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Posted on 3/5/23 at 1:17 pm to
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But the question is whether boorishness should lead to criminal prosecution.


Lol.
Posted by Patrick Little CA
Member since Mar 2023
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Posted on 3/5/23 at 1:17 pm to
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It’s a bill not a law, and what I read stated it enhances certain crimes such as property destruction when motivated by hate.

Which is complete horse shite. It's a gaggle of Jewish pushing this bill to combat the criticism of Jewish people. Here is lead sponsor and top DeSantis ally Randy Fine explaining it.

Twitter
Posted by ThatTahoeOverThere
Member since Nov 2021
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Posted on 3/5/23 at 1:21 pm to
Tell someone they looking like a fool with their pants on the ground. Ya boy from American Idol would be guilty
Posted by AuburnTigers
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Posted on 3/5/23 at 1:21 pm to
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One yahoo in the lower house of the state legislature files a bill that is still stuck in committee, and you think it reflects poorly on the governor of the entire freaking state?


"The Florida GOP is expected to pass their new hate crime bill this legislative session."

Where did it say it was stuck in committee again? Must have missed that part.

Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 3/5/23 at 1:23 pm to
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Where did it say it was stuck in committee again?
LINK
Posted by ThatTahoeOverThere
Member since Nov 2021
4678 posts
Posted on 3/5/23 at 1:23 pm to
Telling some child molester that's walking around in a kids park in a G string to get fricking lost would be a hate crime.
Posted by Gaggle
Member since Oct 2021
7286 posts
Posted on 3/5/23 at 1:25 pm to
Holy shite. Not even hiding it's about speech. You can't hand out flyers or hang a sign critical of groups or 5 years in jail. He's proud of it. Scum
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 3/5/23 at 1:27 pm to
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Telling some child molester that's walking around in a kids park in a G string to get fricking lost would be a hate crime.
How is that ... costume ... reflective of ethnic or religious heritage?

It is not. You would not violate this proposed bill by taking that action.
Posted by Gaggle
Member since Oct 2021
7286 posts
Posted on 3/5/23 at 1:28 pm to
Unless you have a descriptive list of religious/ethnic expressions in the bill, anyone can claim anything including that.

But it's not going to work that way. It's so you can't print flyers with religious statistics of wall Street CEOs and cabinet members. Or hang a sign that says Epstein Didn't Kill Himself. That's what they'll prosecute.
This post was edited on 3/5/23 at 1:31 pm
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
26944 posts
Posted on 3/5/23 at 1:29 pm to
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The Florida GOP is expected to pass their new hate crime bill this legislative session." Where did it say it was stuck in committee again? Must have missed that part.


Because you’re content to accept a single article as gospel truth and not take 5 seconds to do a little research.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 3/5/23 at 1:36 pm to
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Unless you have a descriptive list of religious/ethnic expressions in the bill, anyone can claim anything including that.
Whatever you say
quote:

A person who willfully follows, harasses, or interferes with another person's quiet enjoyment based on the person's wearing of religious-based garments or garments commonly associated with a particular religious or ethnic group or any other indicia of any religious or ethnic heritage commits the offense of aggravated stalking
Posted by Gaggle
Member since Oct 2021
7286 posts
Posted on 3/5/23 at 1:36 pm to
Thank you for highlighting the ambiguous terms that will allow anything.

"This thong is indicative of my ethnic heritage." It's that simple.
This post was edited on 3/5/23 at 1:40 pm
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Member since Dec 2006
94808 posts
Posted on 3/5/23 at 1:38 pm to
Just imagine if such legal protections were put into place for the flag of the United States...
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