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re: Federal Communications Commission set to reverse net neutrality rules
Posted on 12/14/17 at 11:25 am to Breesus
Posted on 12/14/17 at 11:25 am to Breesus
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Has anyone ever been able to explain how net neutrality stifles innovation?
It encourages the monopoly that already exists to have more power over their consumers.
This post was edited on 12/14/17 at 11:26 am
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Posted on 12/14/17 at 11:25 am to Breesus
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The argument for how it stifles innovation is that it stops the incentive to innovate?
That's not an argument. That's rewording my question
Did you just choose to ignore the second part of my post?
Posted on 12/14/17 at 11:26 am to Breesus
Repealing NN stifles innovation by creating unnecessary barriers of entry for future startups.
Keeping NN in place does not stifle innovation, it’s been the defacto law of the land for internet providers ever since there was an internet and finally codified a coup,e of years ago. I’d say we’ve witnessed lots and lots of innovation on the internet from the days it first rolled out.
Keeping NN in place does not stifle innovation, it’s been the defacto law of the land for internet providers ever since there was an internet and finally codified a coup,e of years ago. I’d say we’ve witnessed lots and lots of innovation on the internet from the days it first rolled out.
Posted on 12/14/17 at 11:26 am to DavidTheGnome
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The internet isn’t cable tv, you aren’t currently paying for all of the websites. The websites don’t get their money from internet subscriptions through the ISP. All you are doing is saying I want to pay a middle man more.
I'm paying for access to all of the websites when if someone offered me less money for say, unlimited access to Amazon Prime but only 3 gb access to Netflix, I'd probably take that.
Posted on 12/14/17 at 11:26 am to cokebottleag
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And yet, they lost the fight elsewhere
Actually they have won that fight in some American cities, to not allow other to use their poles and infrastructure.
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not further cementing them as the only providers.
Taking away NN will kill outside competition and innovation.
Posted on 12/14/17 at 11:26 am to NYNolaguy1
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It encourages the monopoly that already exists to have more power over their consumers.
If that were true, wouldn't the ISPs be fore NN?
Posted on 12/14/17 at 11:27 am to cokebottleag
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I'm paying for access to all of the websites when if someone offered me less money for say, unlimited access to Amazon Prime but only 3 gb access to Netflix, I'd probably take that.
Do you realize how dumb that sounds?
Posted on 12/14/17 at 11:27 am to cokebottleag
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NN requires title 2, which specifically prevents exactly the type of changes I'm saying need to happen.
These types of changes didn't occur before NN. What makes you think they will magically change once it is rolled back? Would you be willing to give up a monopoly?
NN is the only protection we have right now.
Posted on 12/14/17 at 11:28 am to DavidTheGnome
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it’s been the defacto law of the land for internet providers ever since there was an internet and finally codified a coup,e of years ago. I’d say we’ve witnessed lots and lots of innovation on the internet from the days it first rolled out.
This is not true for all of the NN rules
Posted on 12/14/17 at 11:28 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
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Can't wait for my Internet to go back to what is was in 2015!!!!
A lot of you guys are going to look like retards in the coming years when nothing happens
You mean that time when ISP’s were already beginning to get more and more bold with their extortionary tactics which prompted the need for the regulation?
And they have spent millions in lobbying annually to get this capability back, I’m sure, because they have no future plans of returning to those tactics.
Posted on 12/14/17 at 11:28 am to cokebottleag
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I'm paying for access to all of the websites when if someone offered me less money for say, unlimited access to Amazon Prime but only 3 gb access to Netflix, I'd probably take that.
You are paying for x amount of data delivered to you and whatever speed you pay for. You aren’t paying for websites.
Posted on 12/14/17 at 11:29 am to StraightCashHomey21
Are you going to pay the ISPs after NN or stop coming here as a protest once NN is gone?
Posted on 12/14/17 at 11:30 am to Salmon
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This is not true for all of the NN rules
How so?
Posted on 12/14/17 at 11:32 am to Parmen
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Are you going to pay the ISPs after NN or stop coming here as a protest once NN is gone?
So you are also advocating for fast lanes?
Posted on 12/14/17 at 11:33 am to DavidTheGnome
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You are paying for x amount of data delivered to you and whatever speed you pay for. You aren’t paying for websites.
Yet
Posted on 12/14/17 at 11:35 am to NYNolaguy1
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encourages the monopoly that already exists to have more power over their consumers.
How exactly does Net Neutrality give ISPs more power over consumers?
Posted on 12/14/17 at 11:36 am to Breesus
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Has anyone ever been able to explain how net neutrality stifles innovation?
Since a lot of ISPs are monopolies, under Title II the government could then come in and set rates.
If the rates are set, how incentivized do you think the ISPs are to be innovative?
Posted on 12/14/17 at 11:36 am to Breesus
Posted on 12/14/17 at 11:37 am to Breesus
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as anyone ever been able to explain how net neutrality stifles innovation?
Title 2 does.
Posted on 12/14/17 at 11:37 am to boogiewoogie1978
Where I live the city owns the isp. They installed their own fiber and that's who I pay. I am curious how this will effect me.
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