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re: Federal Communications Commission set to reverse net neutrality rules

Posted on 12/14/17 at 11:17 am to
Posted by Breesus
House of the Rising Sun
Member since Jan 2010
67023 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 11:17 am to
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free of innovation-stifling regulatio


Has anyone ever been able to explain how net neutrality stifles innovation?
Posted by cokebottleag
I’m a Santos Republican
Member since Aug 2011
24028 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 11:17 am to
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I wonder how long it will take the globalist mega corps Comcast, Verizon, and AT&T to shutdown 4chan/Infowars/Drudge and the other alt-right hubs after they're given total unrestricted control of internet traffic


Like the same companies ban FoxNews, NewsMax, OAN, and Fox Business from their cable packages?
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
125498 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 11:17 am to
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Because their governments followed the same pattern as the Texas deregulation of the power industry.


American ISPs have already fought to not allow others to share infrastructure.
Posted by GeorgeTheGreek
Sparta, Greece
Member since Mar 2008
66548 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 11:17 am to
No because they can’t.
Posted by DavidTheGnome
Monroe
Member since Apr 2015
29310 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 11:18 am to
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t would be called "paying only for the sites you want to access"



The internet isn’t cable tv, you aren’t currently paying for all of the websites. The websites don’t get their money from internet subscriptions through the ISP. All you are doing is saying I want to pay a middle man more.
Posted by Aristo
Colorado
Member since Jan 2007
13292 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 11:18 am to
quote:

I wonder how long it will take the globalist mega corps Comcast, Verizon, and AT&T to shutdown 4chan/Infowars/Drudge and the other alt-right hubs after they're given total unrestricted control of internet traffic


And here it is again, liberals can't be trusted without NN.
Posted by 50_Tiger
Dallas TX
Member since Jan 2016
40304 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 11:18 am to
I don't understand the uproar, you get tier charged for bandwidth already.

Verizon already decides what kind of quality of video you receive depending on the data plan.

We literally have something called a PCR-F that regulates all of this.
Posted by boogiewoogie1978
Little Rock
Member since Aug 2012
17134 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 11:18 am to
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cokebottleag


This article doesn't answer my question. The article you posted shows a need to deregulate the areas in which competing ISPs are provided. I'm all for that but that has not happened yet.

Until it does NN is the best option.
Posted by Salmon
On the trails
Member since Feb 2008
83653 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 11:19 am to
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Has anyone ever been able to explain how net neutrality stifles innovation?


I read a few articles this morning and basically the argument is that it stops the incentive to innovate and there are some rules within NN that you must basically ask government permission to change things within your network, which again, could remove the incentive to try new technology

This post was edited on 12/14/17 at 11:22 am
Posted by Breesus
House of the Rising Sun
Member since Jan 2010
67023 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 11:21 am to
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If your ISP sucks, get another.


I hate you
Posted by cokebottleag
I’m a Santos Republican
Member since Aug 2011
24028 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 11:21 am to
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American ISPs have already fought to not allow others to share infrastructure.



And yet, they lost the fight elsewhere.

This is the fight that should be fought, not further cementing them as the only providers.
Posted by Breesus
House of the Rising Sun
Member since Jan 2010
67023 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 11:22 am to
basically the argument is that it stops the incentive to innovate
The argument for how it stifles innovation is that it stops the incentive to innovate?

That's not an argument. That's rewording my question.
Posted by boogiewoogie1978
Little Rock
Member since Aug 2012
17134 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 11:22 am to
quote:

50_Tiger

quote:

I don't understand the uproar, you get tier charged for bandwidth already.

Verizon already decides what kind of quality of video you receive depending on the data plan.


Right now you are paying a certain price to eat at a buffet. Imagine paying the same price to get a buffet with less options.
This post was edited on 12/14/17 at 11:24 am
Posted by cokebottleag
I’m a Santos Republican
Member since Aug 2011
24028 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 11:23 am to
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Until it does NN is the best option.



NN requires title 2, which specifically prevents exactly the type of changes I'm saying need to happen.

NN just further cements the existing ISPs as the sole providers, it doesn't open anything up.
Posted by SoulGlo
Shinin' Through
Member since Dec 2011
17248 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 11:23 am to
The question still stands...

Why do you people distrust a bunch of individual companies, yet place total faith in one unelected government entity?





The progressive melt over Net Neutrality(tying it to climate change, abortion, BLM, and the rest) is all the proof I need to say frick net neutrality.
Posted by cokebottleag
I’m a Santos Republican
Member since Aug 2011
24028 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 11:23 am to
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Right now you are paying a certain price to eat at a buffet. Image paying the same price to get a buffet with less options.



Or a lower price to simply order a steak.
Posted by 50_Tiger
Dallas TX
Member since Jan 2016
40304 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 11:24 am to
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And yet, they lost the fight elsewhere.

This is the fight that should be fought, not further cementing them as the only providers.


Then you won't like the next step.

Consider why Verizon / ATT / and even TMO are buying up backhaul providers.

I'll give you a hint.

You will be able to get 1GB OTA in about ~18-24 months.
Posted by GeorgeTheGreek
Sparta, Greece
Member since Mar 2008
66548 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 11:24 am to
Sounds broad and generic.
Posted by SoulGlo
Shinin' Through
Member since Dec 2011
17248 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 11:24 am to
quote:


NN requires title 2, which specifically prevents exactly the type of changes I'm saying need to happen.

NN just further cements the existing ISPs as the sole providers, it doesn't open anything up.




It's astounding how few people get this.
Posted by 50_Tiger
Dallas TX
Member since Jan 2016
40304 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 11:25 am to
quote:


Right now you are paying a certain price to eat at a buffet. Imagine paying the same price to get a buffet with less options.


You will be buying internet from either Verizon / ATT / or TMO in the next 5 years.

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