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re: Federal Communications Commission set to reverse net neutrality rules

Posted on 12/14/17 at 12:19 pm to
Posted by SLafourche07
Member since Feb 2008
9967 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 12:19 pm to
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"might"? They were literally caught doing it, sued for it,



So the issue was fixed?


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All internet traffic should he treated the same.


I agree with this, but the key word is should. I'm not for telling a company what they can and cannot offer, but I would be for telling a company that if they choose to throttle, prioritize, suppress, etc. that they have to be transparent about it.

That in and of itself would fix most of the issues. I would also include the Facebooks and Googles in this as well.
Posted by junkfunky
Member since Jan 2011
35109 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 12:20 pm to
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No it doesn't. That's the worst part.


I meant reversal does.
Posted by Breesus
House of the Rising Sun
Member since Jan 2010
68006 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 12:20 pm to
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So the issue was fixed?


Um, yes, with the implementation of Net Neutrality

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would be for telling a company that if they choose to throttle, prioritize, suppress, etc. that they have to be transparent about it. 


You're OK with a monopoly destroying competition within a market as long as they're open about it?
This post was edited on 12/14/17 at 12:22 pm
Posted by 50_Tiger
Arlington TX
Member since Jan 2016
42094 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 12:21 pm to
How about everyone pays for their own ANT / RF Mod / Sys Mod / Fiber / GPS / Backhaul / Core and be your own ISP.




Posted by LSU316
Rice and Easy Baby!!!
Member since Nov 2007
30031 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 12:22 pm to
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Um, yes, with the implementation of Net Neutrality


Posted by bonhoeffer45
Member since Jul 2016
4367 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 12:23 pm to
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I'll respond to that with another question. How can I innovate if I can't shape and manipulate traffic in efforts to ensure a certain current quality of service to my customers


You could do what companies in non-monopolistic settings do when rent-seeking is not an option, provide innovative ways to improve the consumer experience. Like improving network speeds, improving the customer service experience, improving response times for equipment installations and trouble shooting, trying to create interfaces on your gateway websites that make the consumer experience better.

Extorting Netflix so they pay a ransom to not get throttled, which will over the long run cost the consumer indirectly either through a reduction of content or higher prices is not consumer innovation.
Posted by LSU316
Rice and Easy Baby!!!
Member since Nov 2007
30031 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 12:23 pm to
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You're OK with a monopoly destroying competition within a market as long as they're open about it?


Local governments have harbored this for years and have been 100% open about it.
Posted by MusclesofBrussels
Member since Dec 2015
4863 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 12:24 pm to
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50_Tiger


We all get it. You're very proud of your job.
Posted by DarthRebel
Tier Five is Alive
Member since Feb 2013
23391 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 12:25 pm to
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Over half the country does...


I am confused. So all these counties have only one access to the Internet? Did they remove all their cell towers as well.


Posted by junkfunky
Member since Jan 2011
35109 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 12:27 pm to
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How about everyone pays for their own ANT / RF Mod / Sys Mod / Fiber / GPS / Backhaul / Core and be your own ISP.


I've seen your embarrassing posts on the tech board. You know about 5% of what you think you do.
Posted by tokenBoiler
Lafayette, Indiana
Member since Aug 2012
4839 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 12:27 pm to
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can someone explain to me what exactly repealing NN will do?


Steal your dog and drink your last beer.
Posted by Dirtman16
Madison, AL
Member since Nov 2012
410 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 12:28 pm to
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I am confused. So all these counties have only one access to the Internet? Did they remove all their cell towers as well.


Ah, the old data capped or bandwidth restricted wireless service is equal to uncapped broadband argument.
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21465 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 12:28 pm to
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How about everyone pays for their own ANT / RF Mod / Sys Mod / Fiber / GPS / Backhaul / Core and be your own ISP.


Thats where the true innovation lies.

If you can make this affordable, you literally displace a yuge part of the industry.

I would imagine most ISPs are very afraid of this.
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
126276 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 12:29 pm to
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Ah, the old data capped or bandwidth restricted wireless service is equal to uncapped broadband argument.


Its one of their go to plays, but don't realize how dumb it is.
Posted by 50_Tiger
Arlington TX
Member since Jan 2016
42094 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 12:30 pm to
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I've seen your embarrassing posts on the tech board. You know about 5% of what you think you do.




I know telecom.

Just because yall listen to linus tech tips on the tech board like gospel doesnt make you 3GPP savvy nor know the entire LTE map.

Posted by Aristo
Colorado
Member since Jan 2007
13292 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 12:30 pm to
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Take a guess why the government didn't want that to happen?


I guess control.
Posted by 50_Tiger
Arlington TX
Member since Jan 2016
42094 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 12:31 pm to
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Thats where the true innovation lies.

If you can make this affordable, you literally displace a yuge part of the industry.

I would imagine most ISPs are very afraid of this.


I've been begging us to restart our phone division because we pretty much own 50% of the entire network infrastructure and anything new comes from us or Erricson.
Posted by GeorgeTheGreek
Sparta, Greece
Member since Mar 2008
67972 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 12:32 pm to
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I know telecom


So you agree the internet is a telecom?
Posted by 50_Tiger
Arlington TX
Member since Jan 2016
42094 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 12:32 pm to
fricking AMD fanboys are relentless

Coffee Lake has yall all up in a tizzy
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
37580 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 12:32 pm to
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I guess control.


Bingo. Title 2 gives the government, especially the controlling party, a ton of control. For something like the internet, that is awful for the consumers. Title 2 is practically the antitheses of what you want for the internet.
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