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Posted on 8/23/21 at 12:17 pm to SDVTiger
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The goal posts
Outcomes
Posted on 8/23/21 at 12:19 pm to The Levee
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I’m the one fully vaccinated, and you’re eating horse pills. You’re dumb.
I’ve already had Covid. That doesn’t make me a better person. Nor would getting vaccinated make me a better person. Only a mental midget would ascribe morality to vaccination that decreased the odds of a serious Covid infection by 0.03%.
Posted on 8/23/21 at 12:19 pm to tigerdup07
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we know that covid can actually cause you to smother to death. no one's denying that. but, most won't take the vaccine due to fear of side effects. what side effect is worse than death?
Simple yes or no questions:
If I don't take the vaccine can I catch covid?
If I do take the vaccine can I catch covid?
If I don't take the vaccine, can I die from covid?
If I take the vaccine, can I die from covid?
If I don't take the vaccine, can I die from the vaccine?
Posted on 8/23/21 at 12:20 pm to the808bass
Muh T Cells and Muh B cells!
Posted on 8/23/21 at 12:20 pm to H2P
quote:Find one place where I "pushed this shite".
Seems like you do. Stop pushing this shite.
Posted on 8/23/21 at 12:20 pm to The Levee
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Even if you’re right, and say you are…..how many are going to the hospital compared to vaccinated. I’ll hang up and listen.
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The UK government agency Public Health England published a report on Friday that officials who are trying to push the Covid-19 vaccine upon the rest of the world do not want people to see. Data contained within their report revealed people who have received the Covid-19 vaccine are more vulnerable to the Delta variant than those who have not been vaccinated. Their briefing titled “SARS-Cov-2 variants of concern and variants under investigation in England,” investigated every variant of covid-19 that is currently known. The information contained in the report showed that people who received the covid-19 shot are more than three times likely to die than those who have not received the vaccine.
https://thesimpsonpost.wordpress.com/2021/06/25/research-reveals-vaccinated-people-more-vulnerable-to-delta-variant-than-unvaccinated/
Posted on 8/23/21 at 12:20 pm to the808bass
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decreased the odds of a serious Covid infection by 0.03%.
I’m done here.
Posted on 8/23/21 at 12:21 pm to The Levee
Are you arguing against natural immunity? Or just spewing your idiocy into the ether?
Posted on 8/23/21 at 12:22 pm to Bulldogblitz
Simple yes or no questions:
If I don't take the vaccine can I catch covid?
Of course.
If I do take the vaccine can I catch covid?
Of course. Less chance of it happening though.
If I don't take the vaccine, can I die from covid?
Of course.
If I take the vaccine, can I die from covid?
Of course. Less chance of it happening though.
If I don't take the vaccine, can I die from the vaccine?
Of course not. But you have a greater chance of dying from Covid.
If I don't take the vaccine can I catch covid?
Of course.
If I do take the vaccine can I catch covid?
Of course. Less chance of it happening though.
If I don't take the vaccine, can I die from covid?
Of course.
If I take the vaccine, can I die from covid?
Of course. Less chance of it happening though.
If I don't take the vaccine, can I die from the vaccine?
Of course not. But you have a greater chance of dying from Covid.
Posted on 8/23/21 at 12:23 pm to The Levee
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decreased the odds of a serious Covid infection by 0.03%. I’m done here.
You don’t believe Pfizer’s data?
Posted on 8/23/21 at 12:24 pm to Eurocat
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Eurocat
Which part of "yes or no" did you not understand?
The yes? The no? The or?
Posted on 8/23/21 at 12:25 pm to loogaroo
That link from "The Simpson Post" website (not sure what that is) is from June, almost all other research does not back that assertion up.
Posted on 8/23/21 at 12:26 pm to the808bass
Unfettered herd immunity would result in a shitload of deaths.
Posted on 8/23/21 at 12:28 pm to the808bass
They assume everyone spreads it equally.
They don't understand that it is healthier to have a young population immune to this without the vaccine.
They don't understand they are going to have to keep doubling up on the vaccine as age increases, and nothing can change that.
https://scitechdaily.com/more-vaccinated-people-are-dying-of-covid-in-england-than-unvaccinated-heres-why/
They don't understand that it is healthier to have a young population immune to this without the vaccine.
They don't understand they are going to have to keep doubling up on the vaccine as age increases, and nothing can change that.
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More Vaccinated People Are Dying of COVID in England Than Unvaccinated – Here’s Why
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The risk of dying from COVID doubles roughly every seven years older a patient is. The 35-year difference between a 35-year-old and a 70-year-old means the risk of death between the two patients has doubled five times – equivalently it has increased by a factor of 32. An unvaccinated 70-year-old might be 32 times more likely to die of COVID than an unvaccinated 35-year-old. This dramatic variation of the risk profile with age means that even excellent vaccines don’t reduce the risk of death for older people to below the risk for some younger demographics.
https://scitechdaily.com/more-vaccinated-people-are-dying-of-covid-in-england-than-unvaccinated-heres-why/
This post was edited on 8/23/21 at 12:29 pm
Posted on 8/23/21 at 12:28 pm to Bulldogblitz
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Which part of "yes or no" did you not understand?
The yes? The no? The or?
So you can ask - have you ever commited a crime? Yes or No? I bet everyone on this board would answer "Yes, I once drove 56 in a 55 miles per hour zone thus commiting a traffic violation for which I was fortunately not caught and ticketed...but yes, technically I did commit a crime".
But if you answer only yes or no, you would have to answer just yes to that, which could mean people think you are a big criminal or something.
That is why most yes or no questions are rarely asked or only about very verifiable things that need no elaboration (is today Monday, yes or no?).
Have a terrific day!
Posted on 8/23/21 at 12:29 pm to The Levee
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Unfettered herd immunity would result in a shitload of deaths.
I didn’t say anything about herd immunity.
Posted on 8/23/21 at 12:30 pm to tigerdup07
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most won't take the vaccine due to fear of side effects. what side effect is worse than death?
This is why so many people blindly take this stuff. Trust me there are side effects worse than death.. Case in point...
Let's say there is prion involvement with the brain 5 to 10 years from now as some scientists suspect, and all vax recipients get dementia like illness and shite and piss on themselves, staring blankly off into space, with bedsores and little brain function for years before they die. That, my friend, is a fate worse than death. Ask any family who ever cared for a dementia patient.
Posted on 8/23/21 at 12:32 pm to the808bass
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Your argument, which isn’t just an argument in favor vaccinations but an argument that people who aren’t getting vaccinated are morally inferior, is not
While this may be true, you’re inferior because your takes a awful. Constantly awful.
Bottom line is this, you get covid and aren’t vaccinated, your doctor who is undeniably smarter than you, will tell you what you already have been told many times in your life; you’re an idiot.
Posted on 8/23/21 at 12:33 pm to loogaroo
From your link - he says the vaccine does what it should -
Here’s a simple thought experiment: imagine everyone is now fully vaccinated with COVID vaccines – which are excellent but can’t save all lives. Some people who get infected with COVID will still die. All of these people will be fully vaccinated – 100%. That doesn’t mean vaccines aren’t effective at reducing death.
Here’s a simple thought experiment: imagine everyone is now fully vaccinated with COVID vaccines – which are excellent but can’t save all lives. Some people who get infected with COVID will still die. All of these people will be fully vaccinated – 100%. That doesn’t mean vaccines aren’t effective at reducing death.
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