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re: FCC Chairman Ajit Pai: Why He's Rejecting Net Neutrality
Posted on 11/22/17 at 3:50 pm to GoCrazyAuburn
Posted on 11/22/17 at 3:50 pm to GoCrazyAuburn
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The ISPs are trying so hard to not operate how NN regulates them to, that AT&T and Comcast imposed self regulations as part of their merger that largely mirror NN rules. They are so against those rules, that they were in support when the FCC tried to implement them in 2010 and 2014 as well as when the repubs proposed a law to enforce them,
Live view of bonhoeffer and Straightcashhomeys basement
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Posted on 11/22/17 at 3:52 pm to culsutiger
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he republicans control congress and the white house. What's preventing a legislative fix?
You're starting to sound like the dumb arse dems that blame republicans for obamacare sucking.
I mean. They are legitimately talking about getting rid of the Title 2 classification right now. That is why this is all coming back up. That is being considered right now. When that is done, I'd hope to see proper legislation, like what was proposed in 2014. If that doesn't happen, then I'll have plenty of bitching for the Repubs then. However, step 1 is undoing the Title 2 classification.
But hey, if you're okay with our NN regulations and broadband classifications potentially changing with every new President, I can see why you're so on board with how they decided to go about things.
This post was edited on 11/22/17 at 3:55 pm
Posted on 11/22/17 at 3:52 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Why are these threads full of folks pretending to be ignorant of the logarithmic scaling of data needs which has occured over the last several years?
Posted on 11/22/17 at 3:57 pm to Tigerdev
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Why are these threads full of folks pretending to be ignorant of the logarithmic scaling of data needs which has occured over the last several years?
Same reason we have people posting who have no understanding of economics.
This post was edited on 11/22/17 at 4:02 pm
Posted on 11/22/17 at 4:00 pm to GoCrazyAuburn
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This post was edited on 3/3/18 at 11:25 pm
Posted on 11/22/17 at 4:00 pm to Tigerdev
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Why are these threads full of folks pretending to be ignorant of the logarithmic scaling of data needs which has occured over the last several years?
Are you talking about the people who expect to pay the exact same for internet as the amount of their 80 year old grandpa who still sends handwritten letters? The same ones who get angry after their data gets capped after illegally streaming their NBA game from Europe because "they are too smart to pay the cable company"? Those people yeah they are ignorant.
This post was edited on 11/22/17 at 4:06 pm
Posted on 11/22/17 at 4:00 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Same reason they have people who have no understanding of economics
Agreed.
Posted on 11/22/17 at 4:01 pm to Adam Banks
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Are you talking about the people who expect to pay the exact same for internet as the amount of their 80 year old grandpa who still sends handwritten letters? The same one who get angry after their data gets capped after illegally streaming their NBA game from Europe because "they are too smart to pay the cable company"? Those people yeah they are ignorant.
Posted on 11/22/17 at 4:04 pm to culsutiger
Using a massive group of regulations like title II is overkill and has some potential terrible outcomes.
Get rid of that and almost evetyone will be in board
Get rid of that and almost evetyone will be in board
Posted on 11/22/17 at 4:09 pm to stat19
I can't believe the idiocy of anyone who thinks eliminating net neutrality is a good thing just because Republicans say it is good. Newsflash, Republicans are money-taking politicians too. This is the cable companies and ISPs taking control of the internet like they did cable television. Republicans have been bought on this issue. It is a racket for the cable companies and ISPs to "sell" you individual web sites which they do not produce and "block" you from accessing the sites you do not buy from them. frick that!
Posted on 11/22/17 at 4:11 pm to TBoy
Ah the simpleton response. Republican blah blah blah
Posted on 11/22/17 at 4:11 pm to Adam Banks
quote:That is an outright lie...There are already tiers of service based on bandwidth needs. Try again.
Are you talking about the people who expect to pay the exact same for internet as the amount of their 80 year old grandpa who still sends handwritten letters?
quote:More bullshite. We are not talking about or condoning piracy. Really guy?
The same ones who get angry after their data gets capped after illegally streaming their NBA game from Europe because "they are too smart to pay the cable company"?
quote:See above. Pot. Meet Kettle.
Those people yeah they are ignorant.
Posted on 11/22/17 at 4:12 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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This post was edited on 3/3/18 at 11:25 pm
Posted on 11/22/17 at 4:12 pm to Tigerdev
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More bullshite. We are not talking about or condoning piracy. Really guy
Um. OML definitely did
Posted on 11/22/17 at 4:13 pm to Adam Banks
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Are you talking about the people who expect to pay the exact same for internet as the amount of their 80 year old grandpa who still sends handwritten letters?
Once the infrastructure is set up the costs remain the same for a heavy user to a non-user.
Once again. You're too old to understand
This post was edited on 11/22/17 at 4:19 pm
Posted on 11/22/17 at 4:13 pm to culsutiger
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Give me the legislative fix that preserves net neutrality
There's nothing special about net neutrality
Posted on 11/22/17 at 4:14 pm to culsutiger
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Congressional legislation is not dependent on the FCC's current classification of ISPs.
Nope, but it does change the method to achieve such legislation. If ISPs stay as Title 2, then any proposed legislation would have to alter Title 2. You no longer classify ISPs as Title 2 and you can make laws as you wish to match new needs without having to alter current laws. Again, another example of why the way this was done is possibly the least efficient method possible.
Posted on 11/22/17 at 4:14 pm to Tigerdev
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That is an outright lie...There are already tiers of service based on bandwidth needs. Try again.
Have you read any of the conversations in here about caps?
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More bullshite. We are not talking about or condoning piracy. Really guy?
Show me a cordcutter (in particular a sports fan) who is not either illegally streaming/using someone elses login to access content and Ill show you a liar (or they are in the VAST VAST VAST minority). Look at any cord cutting thread on this board and the first 10 responses will be about finding someones ESPN login.
Posted on 11/22/17 at 4:15 pm to culsutiger
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There's the key. Potential.
Its government, what are you expecting? Title II gives incredible controls in the hands of govt
Posted on 11/22/17 at 4:17 pm to culsutiger
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Give me the legislative fix that preserves net neutrality while allowing for the reversal of the title 2 classification, and I'll happily support it.
Read the 2014 proposal. Make any improvements you wish. The 2014 proposal banned ISPs from blocking websites, slowing traffic, creating fast lanes, etc. It also made it very clear that there was never an intention for the FCC to have the ability to transform broadband to a public utility at will.
There. problem solved.
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