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re: FBI Director Wray: “These are not hoax devices”
Posted on 10/26/18 at 3:00 pm to lsupride87
Posted on 10/26/18 at 3:00 pm to lsupride87
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If the guy tried to make them actual bombs, then no people, it isnt a hoax in any colloquial way.
The question is did these things even have the ability to self detonate? If not, then they were simply tools used "to trick into believing or accepting as genuine something false"...which is the definition of a hoax.
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Posted on 10/26/18 at 3:01 pm to Alt26
quote:No. The question is, did he try to make a real bomb and fail or did he try to make something that looked like a bomb to trick people into believing they were real bombs.
The question is did these things even have the ability to self detonate? If not, then they were simply tools used "to trick into believing or accepting as genuine something false"...which is the definition of a hoax.
Posted on 10/26/18 at 3:02 pm to slackster
quote:Correct.
If his intention was for them to blow up and he just made terrible bombs, that's one thing.
If they were never intended to be functional, that's a hoax.
From my view, this dumbass thought he was making a bomb. I am sure his search history and other evidence will let us know the truth
But that wont stop both sides of the political fight from showing their asses
I was so fricking proud of the repubs this last month. So proud. They had to go and ruin it
Posted on 10/26/18 at 3:03 pm to Alt26
quote:This is 100% incorrect
The question is did these things even have the ability to self detonate? If not, then they were simply tools used "to trick into believing or accepting as genuine something false"...which is the definition of a hoax.
A hoax would mean he intentionally and deliberately made these devices not to work
Posted on 10/26/18 at 3:03 pm to lsupride87
quote:
We dont know for sure either way yet.
So, you don't know its not a hoax then, yet you're saying it isn't a hoax, while criticizing the people that do say it is a hoax.
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But I would say most people without an agenda would say this dumb nutjob thought he was making a working bomb
I would say anyone without an agenda would say this nutjob tried to make these look like a bomb. As you said, we don't know either way yet what his intent was. Considering there is no evidence that any attempt was actually made to make these destructive, you are taking a leap based on your predetermined opinion on the matter.
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I have no clue why the right is offended by that, and I have no clue why the left feels so great about it
Both sides are handling this like jackasses
I mean, you're calling people foolish for saying it is a hoax, while claiming it is not a hoax because you believe he had intent to make them explode, with no real basis to go off of other than he made things that look like bombs. You're no better than anyone you are criticizing.
Posted on 10/26/18 at 3:03 pm to PearlJam
"He was the dumbest bomb maker ever..."
He was a republican. An uneducated white male. Skin head, and likely latent homosexual. Just what you would expect from a Trump follower.
He was a republican. An uneducated white male. Skin head, and likely latent homosexual. Just what you would expect from a Trump follower.
Posted on 10/26/18 at 3:03 pm to lsupride87
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If he tried to make these devices actually explode, they arent a hoax by definition, and especially not in colloquial terms to people
Stop with this foolishness people. It is making the right look stupid as hell to people in the middle. This is a random nutjob that is an idiot that likely tried to make bombs but doesnt know his arse from a hole in the ground
This... I have no idea why everyone was trying to call this a “false flag” operation or trying to downplay the threat? He’s a nut just like the Scalise shooter.
Posted on 10/26/18 at 3:04 pm to Nastradamus
I just saw the keebler elf come out to the podium.
Posted on 10/26/18 at 3:04 pm to GoCrazyAuburn
quote:Correct. I am. Because they are using it as a fricking marching tool for "their side", all while not having a clue what a hoax even is
I mean, you're calling people foolish for saying it is a hoax,
quote:Whatever
while claiming it is not a hoax because you believe he had intent to make them explode, with no real basis to go off of other than he made things that look like bombs. You're no better than anyone you are criticizing.
GO TEAM RIGHT. GO TEAM RIGHT
Posted on 10/26/18 at 3:05 pm to bamarep
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Then he's the worst bomb maker in the history of humanity.
Even your resident Muzzie goat fricker can get one to explode once in a while.
He should have consulted Clock Boy.
Posted on 10/26/18 at 3:05 pm to Purina
you are like a cock roach where did you came out from?
Posted on 10/26/18 at 3:06 pm to Y.A. Tittle
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What was the triggering mechanism on these things?
CNN
Posted on 10/26/18 at 3:06 pm to GoCrazyAuburn
quote:We don't, but it is reasonable to think he tried and failed to make real bombs considering the statement from the FBI that they were not hoax devices.
we don't know either way yet what his intent was.
Posted on 10/26/18 at 3:07 pm to slackster
quote:
If his intention was for them to blow up and he just made terrible bombs, that's one thing.
If they were never intended to be functional, that's a hoax.
Posted on 10/26/18 at 3:07 pm to Nastradamus
Let’s take a page from Hillary Clinton’s defense book.
What was the person’s intent? Did he intend to blow these people up? If not, then by Hillary’s definition, a crime was not committed and he should be set free.
What was the person’s intent? Did he intend to blow these people up? If not, then by Hillary’s definition, a crime was not committed and he should be set free.
Posted on 10/26/18 at 3:08 pm to PearlJam
quote:Correct.
We don't, but it is reasonable to think he tried and failed to make real bombs considering the statement from the FBI that they were not hoax devices.
Posted on 10/26/18 at 3:08 pm to Nastradamus
I don't have to look any further that Soros' case.
Soros has a mailbox? If he does, it isn't under video surveillance, along with every other square inch of his property?
If it is under surveillance (it is) no one saw anything? How was detection of the placement of the device avoided?
Hmmmm.
Soros has a mailbox? If he does, it isn't under video surveillance, along with every other square inch of his property?
If it is under surveillance (it is) no one saw anything? How was detection of the placement of the device avoided?
Hmmmm.
Posted on 10/26/18 at 3:08 pm to TheFonz
yes and never put him under oath.
Posted on 10/26/18 at 3:09 pm to PearlJam
They are trying to take the discussion in the weeds. Regardless, he's going to prison for a long time. He is evil.
People tried to warn the potential of a crazy act way back when Sarah Plain was using cross hairs on US officials and candidate.
There are more in the que. This is Trump's America.
People tried to warn the potential of a crazy act way back when Sarah Plain was using cross hairs on US officials and candidate.
There are more in the que. This is Trump's America.
Posted on 10/26/18 at 3:10 pm to lsupride87
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Correct. I am. Because they are using it as a fricking marching tool for "their side", all while not having a clue what a hoax even is
So, they are fools for calling it a hoax, but you are not a fool for saying it isn't a hoax, even though neither of you have ample evidence one way or the other to say definitively your position is correct? How hypocritical of you.
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hoax /hoks/Submit
noun 1. a humorous or malicious deception.
So, if they believe all he did was put together a device made to look like a bomb to scare people, with not method of detonation or explosive material, how are they wrong in calling that a hoax? What definition of hoax are you using?
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Whatever
GO TEAM RIGHT. GO TEAM RIGHT
I'm calling your hypocrisy out. Don't try and assume you know my position on this.
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