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re: Family of AR-15 inventor says gun was intended for military use

Posted on 2/26/18 at 10:47 am to
Posted by Kriegschwein
Alemania
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Posted on 2/26/18 at 10:47 am to
Sweet.

Prolly wheelbarrow mounted.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 2/26/18 at 10:48 am to


I didn't notice, but that's perfect.
Posted by roadGator
DeBoar’s dome
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Posted on 2/26/18 at 10:49 am to
Yeah yeah. What is it?
Posted by Clyde Tipton
Planet Earth
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 2/26/18 at 10:49 am to
quote:

we do think he would have been


quote:

we feel his intent was


Come the frick on.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 2/26/18 at 10:51 am to
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I didn't notice, but that's perfect.


Short person observation here.

When I looked at that GIF, I thought, "sheesh that's a short fricker in stall 5"........then I was like, "lol, probably as tall as me".

Which is funny because on more than one occasion, I've been in a public place where I've seen someone at a distance and thought, "sheesh, that's a short fricker".......then walked past them.........and they were taller than me.

#shortpeoplelife
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 2/26/18 at 10:51 am to
That's the Auto 9. Preferred weapon of cyborg police officers in Detroit. I think it's an NFA firearm.
Posted by skrayper
21-0 Asterisk Drive
Member since Nov 2012
35404 posts
Posted on 2/26/18 at 10:52 am to
I'm pretty sure everyone who isn't a psychopath is horrified and sickened by school shootings. I wouldn't immediately take it as condemnation of the weapon.

Besides, if someone puts a microphone in your face, what are you supposed to say?
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
95674 posts
Posted on 2/26/18 at 10:53 am to
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Buckshot at a school would do massive damage.


You know that buckshot patterns can generally be covered by a saucer at 10 yards and a pie plate at 20 yards, right? Yes, with an open choke, at max effective range, a pattern can score hits on more than 1 target, but that's under ideal circumstances.

Typically, you count on 1 shotshell of buckshot to hit 1 target.
Posted by roadGator
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Posted on 2/26/18 at 10:55 am to
Just brightened my phone. I see it now. Lol
Posted by narddogg81
Vancouver
Member since Jan 2012
22103 posts
Posted on 2/26/18 at 10:55 am to
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designed the AR-15 and subsequent M-16 as a military weapon to give our soldiers an advantage over the AK-47

Why is this a story? This is common knowledge. The ar15 that stoner designed was an automatic rifle that because the m16. The ar15 that is sold to the public is a semi automatic rifle, like hundreds of other rifles sold to the public
Posted by Rougarou13
Brookhaven MS
Member since Feb 2015
6842 posts
Posted on 2/26/18 at 10:55 am to
The 458 SOCOM was designed for military use after Mogadishu. Ironically enough, the military complained that the 5.56 was not effective enough. The 458 was never picked up by the military though. Does that mean it’s caught in limbo now? No one can use it?
Posted by Kriegschwein
Alemania
Member since Feb 2015
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Posted on 2/26/18 at 10:55 am to
A lot of factors involved that determine spread.
Posted by jnethe1
Pearland
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 2/26/18 at 10:56 am to
So because the intended purpose of the ar is not in line with how the gun has been used by these mass shooters, this somehow has an impact on the mass shootings in the past and in all future ones? Someone should let the Muslim terrorist know that planes were not invented with the idea that they would be used as a means to commit mass murders, and the same goes for trucks and kitchen knives, and rental vehicles.... etc.
These psychopaths adhere to no rules. So how could re-emphasizing the intended purpose of something to someone who has no plans to adhere to any rules of any kind make any impact at all?
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 2/26/18 at 10:56 am to
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You know that buckshot patterns can generally be covered by a saucer at 10 yards and a pie plate at 20 yards, right? Yes, with an open choke, at max effective range, a pattern can score hits on more than 1 target, but that's under ideal circumstances.


Unpossible.

In the movies, it takes out 3 people with one shot........in a living room!
Posted by Loserman
Member since Sep 2007
23151 posts
Posted on 2/26/18 at 10:58 am to
The AR-15 was actually made after the M16 so obviously doesn't know what he is talking about.

If the same weapon AR-15 had a wooden stock and no pistol grip it would not functionally be any different than a smaller caliber semi-auto hunting rifle.

Posted by texag7
College Station
Member since Apr 2014
41333 posts
Posted on 2/26/18 at 10:59 am to
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Yes, with an open choke, at max effective range, a pattern can score hits on more than 1 target,


That was my point. Ive patterned it extensively

Dumping a tube of buckshot at a crowd of people would cause massive damage
Posted by Plx1776
Member since Oct 2017
18638 posts
Posted on 2/26/18 at 11:00 am to
Family of Kleenex inventer says that the tissues were not intended to wipe up jizz.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 2/26/18 at 11:04 am to
What were those results at effective ranges?
Posted by texag7
College Station
Member since Apr 2014
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Posted on 2/26/18 at 11:09 am to
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What were those results at effective ranges?


With #1 and 00 buck both had fliers at 35 yards with an open Mossberg 590a1

24" paper target
Posted by Kriegschwein
Alemania
Member since Feb 2015
855 posts
Posted on 2/26/18 at 11:12 am to
You win the innerwebs today.
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