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re: Facts about Ivermectin from an ICU Nurse

Posted on 8/14/21 at 8:12 pm to
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39298 posts
Posted on 8/14/21 at 8:12 pm to
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Have not seen a single one. The only "reinfection" I've seen is someone that had a rapid COVID swab, minimal symptoms and were negative for antibodies 6 weeks later. But I am asking and tracking. We have a list of all of ours that we confirmed positives. I am genuinely curious



I know one rather odd case. Physician, vented last summer, survived, vaccinated in March and April, and tested positive this past July and felt briefly ill. Also had a severe reaction to dexamethasone. Super weird case.
Posted by SmackoverHawg
Member since Oct 2011
30973 posts
Posted on 8/14/21 at 8:12 pm to
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hat’s the one caveat I didn’t mention because I think it’s so dumb to vaccinate people who’ve had covid, I don’t think it’s worth mentioning.


Thank you!!!!!! Why this has not been addressed is beyond comprehension. I had COVID. Sleepy for three days. I have the antibodies. How is someone with a vaccine that does not guarantee antibody formation safer to be around than me? All I would be doing is risking side effects of the vaccine with no definitive benefit. I do encourage mine to get their antibodies checked prior to vaccination. A large number have been surprised to find they're positive.
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
42480 posts
Posted on 8/14/21 at 8:13 pm to
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That’s the one caveat I didn’t mention because I think it’s so dumb to vaccinate people who’ve had covid, I don’t think it’s worth mentioning. The only people I would vaccinate who’ve had covid are fat healthcare workers.


Thanks for your response.
Posted by SmackoverHawg
Member since Oct 2011
30973 posts
Posted on 8/14/21 at 8:14 pm to
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The risk of myocarditis is still something like 300fold less with the vaccines vs covid. That said, you have to balance that with the risk someone will actually contract covid.


Agreed.
Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
33131 posts
Posted on 8/14/21 at 8:14 pm to
A pulmonologist here swears up and down he’s seen like 10 “reinfections” but I think he’s……

….. full of shite
Posted by SmackoverHawg
Member since Oct 2011
30973 posts
Posted on 8/14/21 at 8:19 pm to
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He’s not full of shite. He’s just trusting his own anecdotal experience over the cumulative data.

I’m a little skeptical of the data but it would have to be so extremely falsified for the vaccines not to work that I just don’t think that big of a conspiracy is possible.


Not trusting, but it does make me question the narrative when what I'm seeing isn't what's being publicized.
Posted by 2Yutes
BR
Member since Oct 2018
2439 posts
Posted on 8/14/21 at 8:22 pm to
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Ivermectin


Been studying success cases. It is intriguing.

What is the difference between the ivermectin doctors prescribe & the ivermectin paste sold for horses at the feed stores?
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
42480 posts
Posted on 8/14/21 at 8:23 pm to
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A pulmonologist here swears up and down he’s seen like 10 “reinfections” but I think he’s……


Dr. Catherine O’Neal stated publicly that people that have had Covid before are not protected at all.

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Last year, if you were infected with the virus, you had protection that lasted quite some time. That is no longer the case.


ETA - She is Governor Edward’s mouthpiece for Covid information in the state of Louisiana.
This post was edited on 8/14/21 at 8:26 pm
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 8/14/21 at 8:23 pm to
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Look it up. It came out the week after my dad was buried. We put him to rest on 1-16-2021. It was like adding insult to injury.


I did

LINK

That’s the response from the American Journal of Medicine


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In other words, the Brazilian government claims that the AJM had given a seal of approval to the use of HCQ. Nothing could be further from the truth. The AJM is neither a regulatory agency nor an arbiter of political and scientific disputes. The AJM is a vehicle of communication employed by scientists and clinicians to report information that is potentially useful to physicians throughout the world. It is completely inaccurate to claim that the AJM has endorsed a therapeutic intervention.

Posted by SmackoverHawg
Member since Oct 2011
30973 posts
Posted on 8/14/21 at 8:23 pm to
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A pulmonologist here swears up and down he’s seen like 10 “reinfections” but I think he’s……

….. full of shite


We can both be right. I'm assuming you're at a large medical center. You guys are seeing the worst of the worst. I would be curious if these re-infections were diagnosed with rapid test or PCR? Positive for antibodies prior?
Posted by Forever
Member since Dec 2019
6817 posts
Posted on 8/14/21 at 8:28 pm to
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Unfortunately liberals don’t care about the facts

They’re a bunch of fricking psychos. I had every liberal on the OT vehemently denying the fact that the CDC has 6,000 vaccine deaths on their website and telling me that there’s no evidence anyone has died from the vaccine ever they’re the slimiest bunch of pieces of shite to ever crawl through this country
Posted by BurntOrangeMan
Dallas TX
Member since May 2021
5628 posts
Posted on 8/14/21 at 8:59 pm to
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There is no way that most nursing home patients have natural antibodies but 20 and 30 year olds that have been running around the entire pandemic are still getting it at a high clip. There is still a huge pool of nursing home and old vulnerable patients that only have vaccine immunity.



The comparison is flawed given the PCR testing vulnerability. Nursing homes were constant hot spots if any group has better natural antibody representation its certainly a short list.

Lancet article/UK/NH antibodies study:

LINK

Despite the elderly having usual low antibodies in general, history shows us the cell memory is incredible.
We've had several reemerging diseases half century later+ that the elderly were unaffected by.
This post was edited on 8/14/21 at 9:00 pm
Posted by BurntOrangeMan
Dallas TX
Member since May 2021
5628 posts
Posted on 8/14/21 at 9:03 pm to
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He exposed himself with that comment. Just move on.


You exposed yourself with this comment. Just gtfo.
Posted by Crimson K
Tuscaloosa
Member since Dec 2018
7303 posts
Posted on 8/14/21 at 9:09 pm to
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Bottom line is it should be a personal choice and there should be no vaccine mandates- and that’s something we should all be able to agree upon.

. I can’t understand how anyone would downvote this take.
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 8/14/21 at 9:18 pm to
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The comparison is flawed given the PCR testing vulnerability. Nursing homes were constant hot spots if any group has better natural antibody representation its certainly a short list. Lancet article/UK/NH antibodies study:


That’s a study of one nursing home.

So when I ask why we aren’t seeing nursing homes get wrecked like they were before we had vaccines… your hypothesis is that everyone in nursing homes has already been infected?

How is it that the least mobile, most isolated segment of our population reached herd immunity before 20 and 30 year olds who have been partying the entire pandemic?
Posted by bamadontcare
Member since Jun 2013
3640 posts
Posted on 8/14/21 at 9:24 pm to
Several MDs are posting in this thread.

Ivermectin, HCQ and Zinc plus D3 are knocking Covid on its arse.

Tell me why you aren’t prescribing these safe meds?

Is it a personal thing or are you getting instructions not to prescribe this treatment?

As a layman it sounds insane to me. ?
Posted by bayoumuscle21
St. George
Member since Jan 2012
5014 posts
Posted on 8/14/21 at 9:30 pm to
Ivermectin is a great alternative, but it's not for everyone. My entire family currently has Covid-19, but are all getting better thank the Lord. Ivermectin helped a couple and not others. Hydroxychloroquine (sp?) helped some and not others. The infusion was what seemed to be the best thing for everyone. And all were taking zinc, D3 and Vitamin C during to help. My personal take is try everything to beat it.

Also, a doctor saved my uncle by telling him to take off his oxygen and to drink hot water and sit in the bathroom with the shower on all the way hot. In the hospital. True Story.
Posted by A Menace to Sobriety
Member since Jun 2018
32126 posts
Posted on 8/14/21 at 9:40 pm to
I wood.
Posted by BurntOrangeMan
Dallas TX
Member since May 2021
5628 posts
Posted on 8/14/21 at 9:42 pm to
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That’s the response from the American Journal of Medicine


"The AJM is neither a regulatory agency nor an arbiter of political and scientific disputes. The AJM is a vehicle of communication employed by scientists and clinicians to report information that is potentially useful to physicians throughout the world. "


January article:

AJM JAN 21

May update:

AJM MAY 21


May introduces Ivermectin to the "mix".


Posted by BurntOrangeMan
Dallas TX
Member since May 2021
5628 posts
Posted on 8/14/21 at 9:44 pm to
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I would be curious if these re-infections were diagnosed with rapid test or PCR? Positive for antibodies prior?


Amen.
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