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Fact Checking claims that Obama policy was to seperate families at the border

Posted on 6/20/18 at 3:23 pm
Posted by Toddy
Atlanta
Member since Jul 2010
27250 posts
Posted on 6/20/18 at 3:23 pm
It's ridiculous this has to even be fact-checked. Although it was easy to verify, to actually believe Obama could get away with separating thousands of kids without it being blasted all over the news is beyond ridiculous and utterly preposterous. Not to mention that there would be actual people who worked in the holding camps, etc. to confirm this.


There were a few that were separated when there was a human trafficking fear.

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Amid outcry over the "zero tolerance" immigration policy implemented by President Donald Trump's administration in April, conservative commentators and his head of Homeland Security have sought to downplay the practice of separating families who cross the border illegally as nothing new.

"The Obama administration, the Bush administration all separated families," Department of Homeland Security Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen told reporters at the White House on Monday. "They absolutely did. They did — their rate was less than ours, but they absolutely did do this. This is not new."

The idea that this is simply a continuation of an Obama-era practice is "preposterous," said Denise Gilman, director of the Immigration Clinic at the University of Texas Law School. "There were occasionally instances where you would find a separated family — maybe like one every six months to a year — and that was usually because there had been some actual individualized concern that there was a trafficking situation or that the parent wasn’t actually the parent."

Once custody concerns were resolved, "there was pretty immediately reunification," Gilman told NBC News. "There were not 2,000 kids in two months — it’s not the same universe," she added.

Jeh Johnson, who served as homeland security secretary under Obama, said he did not separate children and parents despite the enormous surges of unaccompanied minors and families that came across the border in 2014 fleeing Central American violence.

"In three years on my watch, we probably deported or returned or repatriated about a million people to enforce border security. One of the things I could not do is separate a child from his or her mother, or literally pull a mother from his or her arms," Johnson said on MSNBC last week. “I just couldn’t do it.”

Obama’s top domestic policy adviser, Cecilia Muñoz, said the Obama administration did consider a similar policy, but determined it heartless.


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Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 6/20/18 at 3:24 pm to
Posted by Turbeauxdog
Member since Aug 2004
23189 posts
Posted on 6/20/18 at 3:24 pm to
Wrong.
Posted by idlewatcher
County Jail
Member since Jan 2012
79132 posts
Posted on 6/20/18 at 3:24 pm to
*pats your head* Good boy.
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
35034 posts
Posted on 6/20/18 at 3:25 pm to
Spinnnnnnnnnnn baby spin!!!!


TO THE CAMPS WITH YOU BAW
Posted by Smart Post
Member since Feb 2018
3539 posts
Posted on 6/20/18 at 3:25 pm to
They just let them go after 20 days instead of defying a court order.

Trump is not going to let them go.

Now cry into your well-bitten pillow.
Posted by Schmelly
Member since Jan 2014
14480 posts
Posted on 6/20/18 at 3:26 pm to
He just released them into the Wild. And he detained the ones who had no parents as a deterrent DETERRENT. For some reason you tards only care about the kids that came with parents(or coyotes)
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
73679 posts
Posted on 6/20/18 at 3:26 pm to
The Spin Doctors are spinning

Trump just destroyed you yet again
Posted by SSpaniel
Germantown
Member since Feb 2013
29658 posts
Posted on 6/20/18 at 3:27 pm to
quote:

There were a few that were separated when there was a human trafficking fear.


You mean when there was a fear that they couldn't be trafficked?
Posted by Big Chipper
Charlotte, NC
Member since Sep 2008
2776 posts
Posted on 6/20/18 at 3:27 pm to
Grab your ankles soy bitch...incoming
Posted by junkfunky
Member since Jan 2011
33895 posts
Posted on 6/20/18 at 3:27 pm to
Posted by Eli Goldfinger
Member since Sep 2016
32785 posts
Posted on 6/20/18 at 3:27 pm to
quote:

Although it was easy to verify, to actually believe Obama could get away with separating thousands of kids without it being blasted all over the news is beyond ridiculous and utterly preposterous.




Because the media was so hard on Hussein Obama. Amirite?
Posted by AU86
Member since Aug 2009
22380 posts
Posted on 6/20/18 at 3:27 pm to
Muh Children.

Those invaders should be put on a plane and sent back to whatever shithole that they came from.
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
64010 posts
Posted on 6/20/18 at 3:27 pm to
The opinion of a liberal law professor? Please.


quote:

Jeh Johnson, who served as homeland security secretary under Obama, said he did not separate children and parents



Well of cooooourse he didn't... why in the hell would he say he did?


So where did all those pics from the child cages during obama come from? Liberal professor bitch says it only happened once a year.


NBC is fake news.
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
79681 posts
Posted on 6/20/18 at 3:27 pm to
quote:

to actually believe Obama could get away with separating thousands of kids without it being blasted all over the news is beyond ridiculous and utterly preposterous.


Obama could’ve picked up an AK-47 and slaughtered a dozen of those kids on the White House lawn and not been blasted for it all over the news.
Posted by Tridentds
Sugar Land
Member since Aug 2011
20389 posts
Posted on 6/20/18 at 3:28 pm to
From the NY Times today:

," which prevented former President Barack Obama from detaining families together during a similar flood of illegal immigration two years ago."

Call the NY Times and whine to them.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
48324 posts
Posted on 6/20/18 at 3:28 pm to
You haven't kept up. Trump signed an EO. Y'all need to change your outrage. No need to use those brown kids as pawns anymore.

By the way...the New York Times has already written an article stating trump didn't have the power to sign the EO and Obama was forced to separate families. You haven't read it?

You need to relax and wait to be manipulated....errrr...I mean to get your talking points straight.
Posted by narddogg81
Vancouver
Member since Jan 2012
19701 posts
Posted on 6/20/18 at 3:29 pm to
My proposal is to let all these Mexican kids go and instead transfer toddy and his buddies to the camps
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
39485 posts
Posted on 6/20/18 at 3:29 pm to
quote:

Once custody concerns were resolved, "there was pretty immediately reunification,"


Same as Today

quote:

2000 kids in two months


Care to venture a guess why children have been pouring over the border like this since roughly 2015?

Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
48324 posts
Posted on 6/20/18 at 3:30 pm to
Also....you are citing a law school clinic professor as an authority? Oh my.


Toddy....what have you done to help any of these points kids? What have you dint to show your support of the brown people? Other than lie and be a racist on here?
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