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re: Expose Football players now to prevent problems in fall.

Posted on 4/20/20 at 9:34 am to
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
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Posted on 4/20/20 at 9:34 am to
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It sounds as if you are suggesting that we use human beings as test subjects, so you can sit in the Barcalounger with a beer and watch sports this Fall.



That's your bleeding heart talking. He's suggesting giving players an option to choose infection now so that they can further their professional career/prospects and so that he can pay for that opportunity by sitting in his barcalounger watching sports this fall.

You are such a pussy
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112644 posts
Posted on 4/20/20 at 9:38 am to
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Should teams go ahead and practice now. Give players hydroxychloroquine z pack under watchful eyes of training staff (anyone, including coaches who are at risk are kept away) and let them practice.

If they do get the Woohan/Chicom Virus, then they get rested and treated. They develop a herd immunity before the fall. Plus, they are away from elderly family.

I can't imagine during the fall season, a bunch of guys playing in the trenches and not having antibodies to fight this thing. Or, just going back to class without the anti-bodies.

Thoughts?

I wonder if the same people who would make this argument are also the most ardent defenders that college athletes shouldn't be allowed to be paid while in college.
Posted by DougsMugs
Georgia
Member since Aug 2019
8239 posts
Posted on 4/20/20 at 9:57 am to
I think the team with the least COVID outbreaks this fall, will be at a great advantage over other teams.

FLU has caused teams to lose to lesser teams. Imagine this crap. It would be better for the student, to get it over with now, before coming back to mix with the student population. If I could do it without exposing more fragile members of my family, I would figure out a way to get this crap and get it over with... loading up on hydroxychloroquine first.
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
69948 posts
Posted on 4/20/20 at 10:09 am to
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We can not have any sports because people going to get the flu.


Look...I agree with you that this whole thing is overblown, but people like us are not in charge of these state governments. If states like California, Virginia and Pennsylvania decide it's unsafe to re-open college campuses come August, it's going to be really difficult to get the college presidents on board with allowing football to be played this fall.

Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 4/20/20 at 11:41 am to
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He's suggesting giving players an option to choose
Please show where to OP indicated that this regimen would be “optional.”
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Expose Football players now to prevent problems in fall

Should teams go ahead and practice now. Give players hydroxychloroquine z pack under watchful eyes of training staff (anyone, including coaches who are at risk are kept away) and let them practice. If they do get the Woohan/Chicom Virus, then they get rested and treated. They develop a herd immunity before the fall. Plus, they are away from elderly family. I can't imagine during the fall season, a bunch of guys playing in the trenches and not having antibodies to fight this thing. Or, just going back to class without the anti-bodies. Thoughts?
I will wait.
This post was edited on 4/20/20 at 11:43 am
Posted by Eighteen
Member since Dec 2006
36953 posts
Posted on 4/20/20 at 11:44 am to
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It sounds as if you are suggesting that we use human beings as test subjects, so you can sit in the Barcalounger with a beer and watch sports this Fall.



i'd bet 95% of these players coaches and staff would agree with it, though. do you not think they want to get paid? and the reason for them not getting paid is to prevent them from getting sick from a disease that many of them will be asymptomatic to and is at no real risk for themselves being healthy young athletes?
This post was edited on 4/20/20 at 11:46 am
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
62197 posts
Posted on 4/20/20 at 11:48 am to
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I wonder if the same people who would make this argument are also the most ardent defenders that college athletes shouldn't be allowed to be paid while in college.



If what the OP suggested was implemented optionally, you'd see a huge percentage of athletes sign up for it because:

The value to them in having a season is greater than the risk of the virus.

In other words, your entire argument for players needing to be paid will fall on its face because it would prove that the "compensation" they are receiving is acceptable to them. Of course, we already know this since the voluntarily accept the terms that exist today.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
62197 posts
Posted on 4/20/20 at 11:50 am to
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Please show where to OP indicated that this regimen would be “optional.”



Are you really suggesting that the OP is for forced infection of the student athlete? Really? Really?

You are a retard, if so.
Posted by IslandBuckeye
Boca Chica, Panama
Member since Apr 2018
10067 posts
Posted on 4/20/20 at 11:52 am to
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use human beings as test subjects


Please explain how proposed idea fits criteria: test subjects.

Do you even science bro?
This post was edited on 4/20/20 at 11:55 am
Posted by Kentucker
Rabbit Hash, KY
Member since Apr 2013
20055 posts
Posted on 4/20/20 at 11:55 am to
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i'd bet 95% of these players coaches and staff would agree with it, though. do you not think they want to get paid? and the reason for them not getting paid is to prevent them from getting sick from a disease that many of them will be asymptomatic to and is at no real risk for themselves being healthy young athletes?


I think you’re wrong. Why would any reasonably sane human being intentionally expose himself to any virus, much less one that has just entered the population? There are simply too many unknowns.

Every person reacts a bit differently to an infection. The school that endorses the intentional infection of its athletes better have its endowment available to compensate the parents of someone who has an unknown underlying condition and dies.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 4/20/20 at 11:58 am to
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Are you really suggesting that the OP is for forced infection of the student athlete? Really? Really?
Forced infection? Of course not. Do not be more of an idiot than usual.

Forced participation in this proposed combination drug test and practice regimen? I would not put that outside the realm of possibility for some organizations.
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134141 posts
Posted on 4/20/20 at 11:59 am to
Bad idea.
Posted by Picayuner
Member since Dec 2016
3808 posts
Posted on 4/20/20 at 12:10 pm to
You can't purposely expose people to the virus so you can watch football ! Are you that dumb ?
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 4/20/20 at 12:10 pm to
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Please explain how proposed idea fits criteria: test subjects.
The use of a hydroxychloroquine regimen for treatment of this virus has not been thoroughly tested as yet, despite some anecdotal stories. Hence “test.”

Do YOU science, bro?
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 4/20/20 at 12:12 pm to
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i'd bet 95% of these players coaches and staff would agree with it, though.
I doubt it would be 95%, but many would indeed participate, if it were voluntary.

An elite athlete has a limited career-span. They understand this.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
62197 posts
Posted on 4/20/20 at 12:15 pm to
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Forced infection? Of course not. Do not be more of an idiot than usual.

Forced participation in this proposed combination drug test and practice regimen? I would not put that outside the realm of possibility for some organizations.



So, you acknowledge that this isn't forced? What are you objecting to? That some might choose to agree to planned infection so they can more quickly further their career, while others would choose not to?

Be specific. What are your objections?
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
62197 posts
Posted on 4/20/20 at 12:17 pm to
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I doubt it would be 95%, but many would indeed participate, if it were voluntary.

An elite athlete has a limited career-span. They understand this.




backtracking already.
Posted by Jorts R Us
Member since Aug 2013
16905 posts
Posted on 4/20/20 at 12:19 pm to
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backtracking already.


On what?
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
62197 posts
Posted on 4/20/20 at 12:20 pm to
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On what?



He's going from "test subjects so that fans can watch" to "willing participants who want to maximizing their limited career opportunities".

That's a monumental U-Turn.
Posted by Jorts R Us
Member since Aug 2013
16905 posts
Posted on 4/20/20 at 12:22 pm to
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He's going from "test subjects so that fans can watch" to "willing participants who want to maximizing their limited career opportunities".

That's a monumental U-Turn.


That's because you posited that the OP meant voluntary--something that has yet to be verified.
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